Vast Paddy Fields
Legend of the Five Rings card from Torn Asunder, Ivory Edition, Three Dynasties, Promotional–Ivory
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Holding
- Gold Cost
- 2
- Keywords
- Farm
- Card Text
- w: Produce 2 Gold. If you bowed this Holding while paying to Recruit a Farm Holding, refill the Province face-up.
- Legality
- A Brother's Destiny (Ivory Edition), A Brother's Destiny (Twenty Festivals), Age of Conquest (Emperor), Three Dynasties
- Deck
- Dynasty
Printings
Torn Asunder
- Rarity
- Common
- Flavor Text
- Generations of farmers struggled to cultivate the lands, knowing that they would never reap the fruits. Decades later, tiered rice terraces breathtakingly spanned the lands.
- Artist
- A.C. Swedberg
- Card Number
- 15
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Ivory Edition
- Rarity
- Uncommon
- Flavor Text
- "They bring wealth, and thus, power. How fortunate that the Crane have so many." - Doji Etsuki
- Artist
- A.C. Swedberg
- Card Number
- 54
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Three Dynasties
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
"The world heals, despite our efforts." - Isawa Junji, Master of Earth- Artist
- A.C. Swedberg
- Card Number
- 62
- Publisher
- Onyx Lives
- Publisherurl
- https://sites.google.com/view/the-onyx-lives-project/home
Promotional–Ivory
- Rarity
- Promo
- Flavor Text
- "They bring wealth, and thus, power. How fortunate that the Crane have so many." - Doji Etsuki
- Artist
- A.C. Swedberg
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: In regards to this response.
Please could you give more detail as to how the card works with specific reference to the steps for taking an action on page 27 of the comprehensive rules and the recruit action (page 37).
I find it difficult to accept that it has taken almost three months to determine that the card works as written without any issues and that anyone suggesting otherwise is essentially trying to make trouble. The intention of this (and other cards) are clear, but the rules, as I understand them, don't seem to support such an intention. When the issue was first spotted I was expecting a slight change to the recruit action, such as the player stating at step A which card was being recruited as they announced the recruit action (so the recruit action would technically be Recruit [name of card]), or some other method of pre-targeting choice selection, in a similar vein to the choice conflicts rule on pages 33-34.
A: Vast Paddy Fields creates a delayed effect which triggers when you refill the province. Alex Jones, "Vast Paddy Fields and the Recruit action", 3 Aug 2014 - Q: I announce the Recruit action for Step A. I bow Vast Paddy Fields during Step B. I chose the holding to recruit during Step D.
Since Vast Paddy Fields' trait is triggered during step B, it doesn't know I'm paying for a Farm and thus shouldn't trigger the refill. If that is so, in what situation does this card work?
A: The refill will be triggered (and delayed until the actual moment of refilling) as soon as it is known that a farm is being paid for. The card works. Please stop trying to find some justification for it not working. Jon Palmer, "Vast Paddy Fields and the Recruit action", 21 Jul 2014 - Q: Is there any resolution to this question?
A: Resolved in the above link. Jon Palmer, "RE: Vast Paddy Fields", 21 Jul 2014 - Q: Under the new Ivory gold pooling rules, how does Secluded Waystation (link to Ivory text) know whether it has produced gold to recruit a personality or not? If I bow it to produce gold in my dynasty phase along with other holdings and buy a combination of holdings and people, can I just assume that its interrupt will be usable on any one personality I choose? This also applies to Imperial Artificer, Vast Paddy Fields, etc.
As an additional bonus question, with a card such as Vast Paddy Fields, Imperial Artificer, or really any holding (although most don't care about it), how many different cards can a given gold production be considered to "pay for?" If I have a Vast Paddy Fields and a 444 in play and I bow them both to produce 6 total gold, and use that to buy 3 two gold cost farm holdings, how many provinces can I refill face-up? I can see arguments for it to be 1, 2, or 3.
Thanks
Edit: After rereading the actual Ivory text for Vast Paddy Fields for Ivory and not the current EE Oracle text, I think it's clear that Vast Paddy Fields can only refill one province because you have to bow it WHILE you're paying for a holding to get the benefit. Question still stands about other cards with the "pay for" wording though.
A: I see you meant Secluded Outpost. For that...
Referenced actions in an Interrupt refer to the interrupted action, therefore the bowing of the Outpost must have been to pay for the referenced Recruit in order to take the Interrupt action in Good Faith.
As for the other Holdings you asked, expect their Oracle wording to resemble Vast Paddy Fields come Ivory. Brook Cunningham, "Secluded Waystation/etc. and "paying for" a card", 1 Jan 2014