Dying Remonstration
Legend of the Five Rings card from Aftermath
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Keywords
- Bushido Virtue, Political, Sincerity
- Card Text
- Political Open: Your target unbowed Human Personality commits seppuku. A target player loses Honor equal to the Personality's Personal Honor or 4, whichever is lower.
- Focus Value
- 4
- Legality
- A Brother's Destiny (Ivory Edition), Age of Conquest (Emperor)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Aftermath
- Rarity
- Uncommon
- Flavor Text
- Kanshi was the samurai's final means of protest. Where all words would fail, the pinnacle of persuasion was a quiet death.
- Artist
- Albert Tavira
- Card Number
- 121
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: Hello guys sorry to bother you again with our great scorpion stronghold !
If i name "Dying Remonstration" with The Shadowed Estate of the Scorpion and my opponent choses to play one anyway, will the seppuku take effect ? I know with "Kitsuki Judgement" in a similar situation the seppuku did occur, but the question wasn't raised in IvE.
Relevant card texts :
The Shadowed Estate of the Scorpion Tireless Open: Name a Fate card, or name a Dynasty card in play. Negate the effects of the next action from a card with that title.
Dying Remonstration Political Open: Your target unbowed Human Personality commits seppuku. A target player loses Honor equal to the Personality's Personal Honor or 4, whichever is lower.
Thank you for your time .
A: Yes, the seppuku will occur, but not the other effects of the action. Seppuku effects remain un-negateable, as they were in the past. Brook Cunningham, "Shadowed Estate + Dying Remonstration", 16 Jun 2014 - Q: Hello!
Dying Remonstration (http://imperialassembly.com/oracle/#cardid=10936) says :
How much honor a target player loses, if I play DR on Personality that is a created card (f.e. Lion Ancestor, Nimuro's twin)? Seppuku effect destroys personality, after that created card ceases to exist and there is no PH value around to use for next effect.
Thanx!
A: When an effect that causes a created card to leave play needs to check for a value from that card, it checks what the value was immediately before it left play. Jon Palmer, "Dying Remonstration and created cards", 24 Apr 2014