Hida Saiyuki

Legend of the Five Rings card from Ivory Edition, A Matter of Honor, Promotional–Ivory

Card Type

Personality

Force

3

Chi

2

Honor Requirement

-

Gold Cost

4

Personal Honor

1

Clan

Crab

Keywords

Crab Clan, Samurai, Soul of Kaiu Hisayuki

Card Text

Increase by 1 all Force bonuses Saiyuki receives (for the duration of the Force bonus).

Legality

A Brother's Destiny (Ivory Edition), A Brother's Destiny (Twenty Festivals)

MRP

Costs 2 less Gold than Hisayuki; trait not restricted to actions' bonuses.

Deck

Dynasty

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: As someone who has played since '97 I tend to have a decent set of cards and while perusing through the rules I noticed the Ivory Edition has changed some of the statements on "Soul of" in the proxies and rules statements. First can I use proxies in tournaments when the tournament rules state things must be bugged, when the rulebook states older versions of a "soul of" card can be used as proxies if you inform your opponent of changes, if so do I need a copy of the card? I suspect yes I can use a Kaiu Hisayuki by bringing a copy of both Hisayuki and Saiyuki. The next question is does Silence count as Hida Saiyuk stilli? Kaiu Hisayuki was a Soul of Silence originally, but Samurai had no "Soul of X" Keyword so his MRP doesnt have the soul of Keyword and you didnt really have the issue of them counting as each other as proxies back then. Can you proxy a proxy with both at a tournament ie Silence for Hida since it only states you can proxy an older card and Technically Silence is the older version of Hisayuki? If not, does Silence no longer count as Kaiu Hisayuki for MRP reasons, can I then double up Hida Saiyuki and Silence in Legacy since Legacy is no longer listed on the list of "official" formats but states "Legacy is can be boiled down to play all cards as they are worded in the Oracle" (yes the typo is on the rules sheet). Just a headache and a curiosity going through my old hordes of cards trying to get ready for the new set and feeling a bit nostalgic.
  A: In the future, if you could use line breaks to organize the questions it'd be really helpful to us! But I think I can tackle this anyway.
  1. "Soul of" allows you to use the specific older version of the Personality in place of the most recent version, played with the text of the most recent version.
  2. You do not need a copy of the new card, tho it can be helpful. With Oracle online, you can always get a judge to confirm exact text.
  3. Silence and Hida Saiyuki have nothing to do with each other from an Ivory Edition perspective. There is no transitive property of Soul ofs.
  4. As of his most recent printing, Kaiu Hisayuki is no longer the Soul of Silence, so Soul of is not longer a consideration in their interaction for deckbuilding.
  5. Assuming Legacy is using the Soul of rules for deckbuilding, you can only have 3 of Kaiu Hisayuki + Hida Saiyuki, but you may have 3 copies of Silence in addition to that.
  Please note that Big Deck ignores the Soul of rule, so you can run one of each version of a Soul chain. Jon Palmer, "Hida Saiyuki/Soul Of Kaiu Hisayuki/Soul of Silence", 22 Jan 2014
• Q: Is the Strongholds trait a bonus for Saiyuki when beeing opposed ? I am asking because in the 20F-Rulebook about "BONUSES AND PENALTIES" it says about exceptions to a bonus or penalty: # 0.5. A fluctuating bonus or penalty is one that explicitly changes with the game state. Example: A card that has +1F for each Samurai in play. Changes in the size of a fluctuating bonus or penalty due to changes in the game state are not bonuses or penalties. Example: A card that has +1F for each Samurai in play goes from +3F to +2F when a Samurai is destroyed. This is not a Force penalty. # The Questions Is about "The Impregnable Fortress of the Crab" Stronghold and "Hida Saiyuki ". I cannot upload the card images to show them here, don't know why. Don't see any Upload button.
  A: Saiyuki gets the extra +1F while opposed. One of my tournament wins was an Ivory Strict format just before 20F legality and the stronghold cycled out, with cheap bodies, force bonuses and penalties, and card draw. It was designed to maximize Saiyuki. Jeff Williamson, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 10 May 2024