Goju Saido

Legend of the Five Rings card from A Line in the Sand, Onyx Edition

Card Type

Personality

Force

3

Chi

2

Honor Requirement

-

Gold Cost

5

Personal Honor

0

Clan

Ninja, Spider

Keywords

Assassin, Ninja, Shadowlands

Card Text

Invest : Melee 5 Attack (this cannot be Interrupted) that may target a card in a player's home (if otherwise legal). This Invest cost cannot be reduced. Lose 2 Honor.
After Saido enters play, lose 1 Honor.

Legality

A Brother's Destiny (Ivory Edition), A Brother's Destiny (Twenty Festivals), War of the Seals (Onyx Edition)

Deck

Dynasty

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: Situation: Goju Saido has been bought previously with its Invest cost. When it dies, its player Interrupts the action with Feign Death. Per Akodo Gilador's ruling, he enters play from an out-of-play area, which is considered Recruiting per the CR.
  - Does Goju Saido's controller need to pay the 10G Invest Cost he initially paid? - Can he choose to pay an additional 10G Invest cost when Saido enters play through Feign Death?
  Also: I do not see the change Palmer mentions here. Nothing in the Invest part of the CR specifies you need to Recruit a personality to use its Invest trait?
  Relevant text:
  Goju Saido Invest 10 : Melee 5 Attack (this cannot be Interrupted) that may target a card in a player's home (if otherwise legal). This Invest cost cannot be reduced. Lose 2 Honor. After Saido enters play, lose 1 Honor.
  Feign Death Interrupt: Target your Personality. After the action resolves, if it destroyed him, bring him into play in your home, ignoring costs and Honor Requirement, then bow him, dishonor him, and lose 2 Honor.
  RECRUIT Furthermore, any time an effect brings a Personality or Holding into play from an out-of-play area, it is considered Recruiting and follows the Recruit procedure with any stated modifications. This does not apply to created cards because they are brought into existence from nothingness.
  INVEST This is a trait that starts with “Invest” and a Gold cost (for example, “Invest 2:”). Before paying for a card entering play, a player may permanently increase the card’s Gold Cost by the additional cost in its Invest trait, once, to get an additional effect after it enters play (for example, “Gain 1 Honor” or “Give this card a +2F token.”) When Invest appears on a non-Strategy card, its effects come from the Invest trait, not the action that brought the card into play.
  An Invest cost on a Strategy may be added to the cost of any action the player is taking from the Strategy, at the point when that cost would be paid. If it creates distinct effects, as opposed to just modifying the action, they are added to the action’s effects, resolving last, and become part of the action. Things that can pay for an action on a Strategy can also pay for an Invest cost on a Strategy.
  A: As Jon has stated, Feign Death does not Recruit the Personality. Alex Jones, "Feign Death & Invest", 15 Jun 2015
• Q: When opponent is making the invest on Saido and I have a personality with Iron Armor, does the Melee 5 fully hit or is it reduced?
  A: Goju Saido's Melee Attack will be reduced by 2 if you target the Iron Armour's Personality. Alex Jones, "Goju Saido & Iron Armor", 29 May 2015
• Q: When a fully invested Goju saido is destroyed and the destruction interrupted with feign death, when Saido reenter's play he will perform a Melee 5 as part of his entering play effects, yes?
  If that is true, when coming into play, Saido may target a card in the players home, but assuming that Saido was destroyed and subsequently comes back during the battle action phase, can his Melee attack target a card in the enemies army?
  If the above is yes, would you still be able to do so if Saido was the last person in the opposing army, and by his destruction and return to home, you no longer have presence at that battlefield, would you still be able to target an enemy card in the previously opposed army?
  Goju Saido Assassin • Ninja • Shadowlands Invest : Melee 5 Attack (this cannot be Interrupted) that may target a card in a player's home (if otherwise legal). This Invest cost cannot be reduced. Lose 2 Honor. After Saido enters play, lose 1 Honor.
  Feign Death Interrupt: Target your Personality. After the action resolves, if it destroyed him, bring him into play in your home, ignoring costs and Honor Requirement, then bow him, dishonor him, and lose 2 Honor.
  A: Your reading of the current rules is correct; however, we're removing the section of the CR that defaults all entering play to Recruiting. Since Feign Death does not explicitly Recruit and Recruiting is needed for Invest effects on Personalities to trigger, you will not get the Invest effect again if you bring an Invested Personality back into play via Feign Death. Jon Palmer, "Goju Saido + feign death", 5 Mar 2015
• Q: Hey guys,
  Tried looking for a ruling on that but I couldn't find it. Just curious if Siado's invest melee 5 be The Turtle's Shell or We are Not yet Beaten. I was under the impression you could not interrupt it but I could be wrong
  Thanks
  A: You cannot stop the attack with an Interrupt.
  Per the CR, Invest: When Invest appears on a non-Strategy card, its effects come from the Invest trait, not the action that brought the card into play. Alex Jones, "Goju Saido and interrupts", 16 Jan 2015
• Q: Following this: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=110475
  What about Goju Saido? If I invested him the first time, and I bring him back later with Blood of the Preserver xp, he still costs 15G... but does he produce a new Melee 5 attack?
  Also, what happens to his GC and Melee Attack if I try to Recruit him from my province (the first time) and I choose to Invest, but he doesn't enter play? (example 1: I don't have enough gold, example 2: he became Reserve and the Battle Recruit action is negated by The Sun Returns)
  Goju Saido Invest 10: Melee 5 Attack (this cannot be Interrupted) that may target a card in a player's home (if otherwise legal).
  A: Each Invest is a seperate triggered trait, that looks to see if the Invest cost was played the most recent time this card a) entered play for Personalities/Followers/Holdings, or b) was played for it's ability for Strategies.
  If you Invested a Goju Saido, then that card was destroyed, then subsequently recruited again (without becoming face down and out of play), it's current Gold Cost would be 15, and if you wanted to get the Melee 5 Attack again, you'd have to Invest again, raising the Gold Cost of Saido to 25.
  As for your second question, if for some reason an Invested Personality fails to enter play, the Invest increase of his GC has already happened, so assuming he doesn't go face down and out of play, he will remain at his higher Gold Cost, but you will not get the Invest effect. Ben Higgins, "Re: Returning Invested Personalities to play", 11 Nov 2014