Seppun Tasuke

Legend of the Five Rings card from The New Order

Card Type

Sensei

Province Strength

+0

Gold Production

-1

Starting Family Honor

+0

Keywords

All Clans

Card Text

Your Love Letter Personalities in and out of play have your Clan Alignment and you ignore their Honor Requirement. After your Iweko Miaka is destroyed, you lose the game.
Open, w: Name a number and target another player. After each time his (non-Focused) card with that Focus Value is discarded from hand, gain an Affection token.

Legality

A Brother's Destiny (Ivory Edition), A Brother's Destiny (Twenty Festivals)

Erratum

Technical erratum to match redefinition of "discard a card".

Deck

Pre-Game

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: To be perfectly clear, today's latest statement is an official reversal of this prior statement ?
  A: Yes, my original ruling for #8 was incorrect, and to quote RGS in Alex's signature, "Alex is exactly right". Jon Palmer, "Seppun Tasuke, Discarding, and Voice of Experience", 21 Apr 2015
• Q: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=110853
  Current Oracle text for Seppun Tasuke is: "Name a number and target another player. After each time his (non-Focused) card with that Focus Value is discarded from hand, gain an Affection token."
  Does it matter which player's hand the card was discarded from?
  For example, I use Doji Takato and end up with my opponent's card in my hand. I discard it later (say, for the Favor ability). His (my opponent) card is being discarded "from hand". Would I get a token?
  A: You would get a token - it doesn't matter whose hand the card is discarded from, as long as it's a card your opponent owns. Alex Jones, "Seppun Tasuke, Discarding, and Voice of Experience", 21 Apr 2015
• Q: Hello. I am trying to create Love Letter Deck, and there are some things unclear to me...
  Situation A) : I am using Seppun Tasuke ability, naming "3". Then during battle I use Kaiu Akemi's ability and use Voice of Experience' intterupt. Opponent shows a card with printed FV of 2, I add extra +1FV (from VoE) to it, and discard my card with 4FV to discard his card. Question - do I get the affection token from sensei, for opponent discarding a "3" FV card? Sensei does not precise at what point of time the FV is checked, and FV manipulation is made during the course of discard.
  Situation B) : I am using Seppun Tasuke ability, naming "3". Then during battle I use Kaiu Akemi's ability anduse Voice of Experience' intterupt. Opponent shows a card with printed FV of 2. I discard a 3FV < card to discard his card. Now, as his card is discarded, chose to increase his FV by 1 due to VoE effect. Question - may I do so? VoE can be used on both showing OR discarding...
  Situation C) : I am using Seppun Tasuke ability, naming "3". Then during battle I use Kaiu Akemi's ability and use Voice of Experience' intterupt. My opponent uses his Voice of Experience as well. Opponent shows a card with printed FV of 2, and then increases it to 3 due to his VoE effect. I discard a 3FV card from my hand and use mine VoE on it to discard his card. Question - may I do so? At the point of discarding my card mine has not enough value to discard opponents card, but I have means and intention to make it so...
  Bonus question (just occured to me) : Kaiu Akemi shows a card in other player's hand. Then, as a _separate_ effect, it is possible to discard it. Because card loses all "memory" of all effects affecting it if it is out of play and face-down, wouldn't the VoE effect used on "showing" the card wear off when the discarding effect is about to resolve?
  Voice of Experience Interrupt: After each time the action discards or shows any cards, you may give them +1FV.
  Seppun Tasuke Open, #BOW: Name a number and target another player. After each time his (non-Focused) card with that Focus Value is discarded, gain an Affection token.
  Kaiu Akemi, the Diplomat Battle: If Akemi is opposed, show a random card in the enemy leader's hand. You may discard a card with a higher Focus Value (from your hand) to discard the shown card.
  A: In all of these cases, the timing is the same, so the active player chooses which among Tasuke, Akemi, and VoE's effects apply first. As long as you're the active player, you can resolve them in the order that it will work as you wish. If you're not the active player (and this applies when the opponent has a VoE, or if it's not your turn) your effects will not resolve in the order you wish them to resolve. Jon Palmer, "Seppun Tasuke, Voice of Experience, Kaiu Akemi", 20 Apr 2015
• Q: I may use this deck in a kotei this month. I was wondering if there are any new and current errata (on the sensei) and its related cards. I'd like to be up to date before I pick fights with the TOs
  Seppun Tasuke
  Your Love Letter Personalities in and out of play have your Clan Alignment and you ignore their Honor Requirement. After your Iweko Miaka is destroyed, you lose the game. Open, w: (Bow) Name a number and target another player. After each time his (non-Focused) card with that Focus Value is discarded, gain an Affection token.
  A: I have proposed a solution to this question and, if none of the Rules Team point out any problems with it, should be issuing a solution within the next few days; if not, you will get an update.
  The desire of Design and the Rules Team is for the Sensei to only work as intended with discards of Fate cards from the hand, not the deck, resolution area (which Rings now enter) or focusing area. Roger Giner-Sorolla, "Seppun Tasuke", 15 Feb 2015