Contemplation of Destiny
Legend of the Five Rings card from Promotional–Samurai
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Keywords
- Unique
- Card Text
- Open: Target another player's Unique Personality: Bow him. If he does not have his controller's Clan alignment, permanently remove one of his base abilities or traits.
- Focus Value
- 4
- Legality
- Race for the Throne (Samurai)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Promotional–Samurai
- Rarity
- Promo
- Flavor Text
- "Why did I not foresee this?" Satsu whispered.
- Artist
- Jason Engle
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: In response to this thread.
I play my bro in this a lot, and we looked up ther rulebook and found the below text. The answer in the above thread seems to contradict my understanding of the the unaligned definition in the rule book.
P1 - The player who plays The Maw's Grave has no clan alignment (thereby being considered unaligned). (see Zen Faulke's Post) P2 - Unaligned players do not "have the same clan alignment as an" unaligned personality. (see rulebook definition of unaligned) P3 - Contemplation of Destiny asks "If he does not have his controller's Clan alignment" then the effects carry through. (see card text below) C - A Maw's Grave player will have the second set of effects always trigger on him.
A maw's grave player (or any unaligned stronghold user) is always vulnerable to the second condition in the Contemplation of Destiny.
Thanks for your time, this just confused me a bit.
Relevant Text: Unaligned - A Personality, player, or Stronghold without a Clan alignment. Unaligned Personalities do not have the same Clan alignment as an Unaligned player or Stronghold, nor do they have a different Clan alignment from anything.
Contemplation of Destiny - Open: Bow another player's target Unique Personality. If he does not have his controller's Clan alignment, permanently remove one of his base abilities or traits (not keywords).
Zen Faulkes PostIt (being Maw's Grave) has no faction trait to gain, so it would be unaligned (http://rules.l5r.com/Glossary_U#Unaligned).
Pardon this, I posted this last night in the wrong forums. I just wanted the rule's team to clarify this ruling.
A: Please see the original ruling for clarification on this. Dan Jacobson, "Contemplation of Destiny & The Maw's Grave", 13 Nov 2008 - Q: [Obh] shiba + Contenplstiin of destiny. If shiba have his limited ability removed (contemplation of destiny or similar) and goes to the discar pile and enter play again. He recovers the ability?
A: No. Basic stuff here: For a card to lose "memory" of permanent effects on it, it must go both out of play and face-down. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 9 May 2026