Fall on Your Knees
Legend of the Five Rings card from Diamond Edition, The War of Spirits, Celestial Edition 15th Anniversary
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Card Text
- Reaction: Before a Reaction resolves during the Combat Segment: Negate its effects.
- Focus Value
- 3
- Legality
- Four Winds (Gold), Hidden Emperor (Jade), Rain of Blood (Diamond)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Diamond Edition
- Rarity
- Uncommon
- Flavor Text
- A samurai must always show reverence to his ancestors. One never knows when they might show their disapproval.
- Artist
- David Martin
- Card Number
- 258
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
The War of Spirits
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "The Phoenix will do as we command, or their children will die. To prove that we mean what we say kill…that one." - Hantei XVI
- Artist
- David Martin
- Publisher
- Wizards of the Coast
Celestial Edition 15th Anniversary
- Rarity
- Promo
- Artist
- David Martin
- Card Number
- 82
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rulings
- Cancels Reactions played before the Defender's first normal Open or Battle action (e.g., Sneak Attack) [VRD, 6 November 2000], but not those occurring during or after the Resolution segment. [Card text] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 16
- Cannot cancel Shiryo no Shoju's reaction, because it happens before the battle action segment. [VRD, 10 January 2001] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 16
- Can cancel a Reaction on any card, not just an Action card. [JA, 24 July 2002] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 16
- Q: What can Fall on Your Knees cancel? A: Fall on Your Knees can cancel any Reaction played at any time during the Battle Action Segment, including those played "when" or "after a battle begins" or "before the Defender's first action," such as Sneak Attack. It can also cancel Reactions to Delayed Terrain effects, since Delayed Terrains resolve just before the Battle Action Segment ends. It cannot cancel a Reaction played "before a battle begins", nor can it cancel anything once the Resolution Segment starts, such as a Feign Death played in response to a unit in the losing army dying. It certainly can't cancel any Reactions played "after a battle" or "after battle resolution". Legend of the Five Rings FAQ, April 26, 2004, p. 11
Rules Q&A
- Q: Diamond Rulebook says : ""No player may take action (including Reactions) or bring cards into play between the start of the Battle Action Segment and the first Battle or Open action opportunity, except for Reactions to that action."
- I know that means no one can play a Sneak Attack during a Naval Invasion.
- During a Naval Invasion, I can play No Hiding Place if my first action is a RA, but my opponent can NOT play Fall on Your Knees on the NHP, right?
A: Yes. Both Actions are taken before the first opportunity to take an Open or Battle Action, however only No Hiding Place is played in response to that first opportunity - thus only it is legal to play. Martin Lund, "Rules for 26 October 2004", 1 Nov 2004 - Q: 2. Can Fall on Your Knees cancel Armed & Ready?
A: No. As noted above, Armed and Ready is played during the Resolution Segment, which is after the end of the Battle Action Segment. Fall on Your Knees can only be played during the Battle Action Segment, as per its card text. Martin Lund, "Rules for 2 June 2004", 6 Jun 2004 - Q: Okay, I've been told and I would agree with the fact that the following two things can't be done with FOYK. Can somebody please clarify?
A: Fall on Your Knees says, "Reaction: Cancel a Reaction during a Battle Action Segment." Martin Lund, "Rules for 20 April 2004", 22 Apr 2004 - Q: 1. I declare my intention to attack, and in reaction my opponent plays an Outmaneuvered in Court. Can I Fall on Your Knees this? I don't think I can, since its not a battle action segment, but the declaration of battle.
A: The Diamond Edition Rulebook clearly outlines the separate Segments of the Attack Phase. Outmaneuvered In Court has to be played - well - before the Battle Action Segment. You haven't even completed Infantry Maneuvers or Cavalry Maneuvers yet.
If it isn't the Battle Action Segment, you can't play Fall on Your Knees. (card text) Martin Lund, "Rules for 20 April 2004", 22 Apr 2004 - Q: Can Fall On Your Knees cancel a Sneak Attack?
A: Yes. Sneak Attack is a Reaction played during the Battle Action Segment. Martin Lund, "Rules for 18 April 2004", 20 Apr 2004 - Q: I attack with Nobumoto to Province A. Seruma stay at the fief.
I declare Naval Invasion, use the Battle of Nobumoto and Reaction with No Hiding Place, trying to kill Seruma.
Q: Could the Phoenix player cancel No Hiding Place with Fall on Your Knees?
A: This looks like it's already been covered. The short answer is "no". Jeff Alexander, "rules for 26 March 2004", 29 Mar 2004 - Q: If Hitomi Daisetsu bows to cast a Flee the Darkness and the other player uses Fall on Your Knees. Daisetsu can still use his reaction to straighten?
A: Yes. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 24 March 2004", 26 Mar 2004 - Q: Dear all,
From my understanding:
Elemental Rings are played as Reactions to their specified condition.
A: They have timing similar to Reactions, but they are not Reactions and are not actions. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 9-10 March 2004", 11 Mar 2004 - Q: As Rings are played as Reactions, Fall on Your Knees could be used to counter the playing of an Elemental Ring during the Battle Action phase.
A: They're not, so it couldn't. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 9-10 March 2004", 11 Mar 2004 - Q: Thirdly: Due to the new wording on Sneak Attack, it is possible to Fall on Your Knees it, correct?
A: It has always been possible. I don't believe Sneak Attack has ever been worded in such a way that it got played clearly before the battle started. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 8 March 2004", 9 Mar 2004 - Q: Can a player play Fall on Your Knees to cancel a Reaction that was taken in Reaction to a naval invasion action such as No Hiding place reacting to a Ranged Attack taking as the naval invasion action?
A: In this case, no.
The ranged attack is the first Open/Battle action. More importantly, taking it marks the start of the first opportunity to act.
No Hiding Place is a Reaction to that action that, in this case, is played before the action (since it changes what the ranged attack is allowed to target). That puts it before the first opportunity to act. But it's legal because it's reacting to the ranged attack action.
Reactions to No Hiding Place aren't allowed.
On the other hand, Fall On Your Knees *could* cancel Tsuruchi Technique's Reaction, since that isn't played until the ranged attack effect actually happens. At that point, the first opportunity to take a Battle action has passed, since you're already in the middle of it. You are no longer "BETWEEN the start of the Battle Action Segment and the first Battle or Open action opportunity". Jeff Alexander, "rules for 4 March 2004", 5 Mar 2004 - Q: Player A playes Tsuruchi Technique for its Battle Action. Player B wants to cancel it with Fall on Your Knees, because the term "Reaction" appears on the card.
A: Faith in my Clan cannot cancel Battle actions (card text), not anything with the word "Reaction" written on it. Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 16 December 2003, Part 3", 17 Dec 2003 - Q: I play a Sneak Attack at the beginning of battle. My opponent plays a Fall on Your Knees. Can I play another Sneak Attack in my hand?
A: Yes (Diamond rules, pg. 72). Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 30 November 2003", 1 Dec 2003 - Q: Player A has a Phoenix shugenja with Kuro's Fire and the Isawa House guard. Player B has Fall on your Knees.
"A" Kuro's fire the army of "B", then uses the Isawa House Guard's reaction to straighten the personality. B uses Fall on Your Knees to cancel the reaction.
The argument from A is that since it was cancelled, he can immediately use the reaction again because it was considered to not have happened at all.
A: Providing the cost for bowing is waived, it can. Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 22 November 2003", 23 Nov 2003 - Q: [I]f Hitomi Daisetsu's reaction is canceled with Fall on Your Knees, he can just use it again and then straighten, right?
A: Correct. Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 21 November 2003, Part 2", 22 Nov 2003 - Q: when Moto Latomu moves into a battle and uses his Reaction to make a Ranged 2 Attack without bowing, if it is then cancelled by Fall On Your Knees, he can use the Reaction again to make a Ranged Attack again.
A: Correct. Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 14 November 2003, Part 2", 15 Nov 2003 - Q: It may be a relatively simple answer, but I was unsure and figured I would ask anyways.
Can I cancel my opponent playing Armed and Ready with my Fall on Your Knees?
A: No. Fall on your Knees cancels Reactions played during the Battle Action Segment. Armed and Ready happens at the start of the Resolution Segment. Vaughn Derderian, "Rules for August 8th, 2003", 8 Aug 2003 - Q: Sneak Attack Reaction: Play this card when the Battle Action Segment begins. The Attacker may take an Open or Battle action before the Defender's first action in this battle
I believed that if I Fall On Your Knees my opponent Sneak Attack, he can play another but somebody pointed out that the Fall On Your Knees would be the first action I played in the Battle making Sneak Attack useless, is these true?
A: No. Another Sneak may be played. Sneak Attack is played "when the Battle Action Segment begins". That trigger still exists.
Furthermore, all phrases such as "when / immediately after the battle begins" and "before the first / Defender's first action" are considered synonymous. [GE p. 58] They are not invalidated by a Reaction being taken. Jeff Alexander, "post for 12 March 2003", 13 Mar 2003 - Q: I have been asked for an official interpretation on a ruling I made this weekend.
If one player plays Armed and Ready, can the other player play Fall On Your Knees. I said yes, but one player said that it is no longer during battle, so Fall on Your Knees doesn't trigger.
A: As has been pointed out, Fall On Your Knees is playable in the Battle Action Segment only [card text]. Since Armed and Ready is played in the Resolution Segment [card text], Fall On Your Knees cannot cancel it. Jeff Alexander, "post for 18 February 2003", 19 Feb 2003 - Q: Can " fall on your knees " cancel " pick your battles" ?
No. Pick Your Battles is not played in the Battle Action Segment. "Battle resolution is the only time the phrase 'destroying an army' is satisfied." [GE rulebook]
Can you "Fall on Your Knees" a "Rallying Cry"? Can you "Faith in my Clan" a "Rallyiing Cry"?
A: Let's read the cards:
Fall on Your Knees Reaction: Play this card when a player plays a Reaction during the Battle Action Segment. Cancel the Reaction.
Faith In My Clan You may play this card only if a Clan Champion from your Faction is in your army. Reaction: Cancel an action.
Rallying Cry Reaction: Play this card after a Resolution Segment. Your units in the battle do not become bowed by the combat.
Fall On Your Knees can't cancel Rallying Cry because Rallying Cry is played during the wrong Segment.
Faith In My Clan can be played if you have an army anywhere on the board that contains one of your Clan Champions. It can't cancel a Rally after the very last battle, but it might be able to cancel one at an earlier battle. Jeff Alexander, "post for 7 November 2002", 8 Nov 2002 - Q: 3. If the overconfidence is legal, can one Fall On Your Knees either of them?
A: Only if the bonus begins while in a Battle Action Segment. Fall On Your Knees is not playable if the bonus (and thus the Overconfidence) happens when the unit assigns, for example. Jeff Alexander, "post for 5 November 2002", 6 Nov 2002 - Q: This may have been asked before, but can Fall on Your Knees cancel the reaction off of Campsite?
A: Only if the Campsite is used in response to someone moving into the battle once it's begun. Fall On Your Knees cancels a Reaction taken during the Battle Action Segment only. [card text] It can't react to a Campsite used during initial infantry or cavalry assignment. Jeff Alexander, "post for 1 October 2002", 2 Oct 2002 - Q: On Sept. 9th Jeff Alexander answered this question:
... Which I'm sure has been asked and answered many times before. If I use Fall On Your Knees to prevent a Shugenja using the Stronghold's reactions, can my opponent merely react again with another Shugenja?
Yes. ------------------------------------------------------- On page 48 of the Dark Allies rulebook under Reactions it states:"Also, each printed instance of a Reaction can be used only once per trigger.(It's legal to use multiple identical Reactions if they all come from different physical cards.)"
Now if each of your Phoenix Shugenja are considered to gain the strongholds Reaction to cancel an action targeting a samurai, (the way Yogo Towers works for Scorpion), then I understand why Jeff answered yes to this question. However, it is my understanding that bowing a Shugenja is a cost of using the strongholds reaction and that the source of the actual Reaction comes from the stronghold itself, which would count as only one printed instance.If that is correct then an Asako Towers player should not be able to react again with a different Shugenja.Could Jeff or some other rules guru please give me a better understanding on this issue.
A: As has been pointed out, a canceled action is not considered to have been used, so attempting it with another Shugenja does not violate the once-per-written-instance limit. Jeff Alexander, "post for 11-12 September 2002", 13 Sep 2002 - Q: ... Which I'm sure has been asked and answered many times before. If I use Fall On Your Knees to prevent a Shugenja using the Stronghold's reactions, can my opponent merely react again with another Shugenja?
A: Yes. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 9 September 2002", 10 Sep 2002 - Q: When you mean "bring into play" say "bring into play" when you mean "play from hand" say "play from hand." Accept that Fall on Your Knees is properly worded for what it does, and Blade of Truths is simply badly worded and Errata it.
The overhead for reserving "play" for cards rather than actions is too great, IMO.
A: It's beginning to look that way. While I'd love a more precise wording, it looks like we'll have to accept that the exact meaning of "play" depends on context.
The ruling on Blade of Truths will stand. Jeff Alexander, "post for 25 July 2002", 26 Jul 2002 - Q: Jeff, Do to recent ruling on the Blade of Truths: #2: The Blade of Truths refers only to Reaction Action cards when it says "may not play Reactions". Yes, this could have been made clearer than just using the ambiguous word "play". Then the same rule would apply to Fall on Your Knees (card text below) and that it only works when someone Plays a Reaction Card?
A: No, because Fall On Your Knees was printed before we started paying more attention to how we used the word "play". Jeff Alexander, "post for 24 July 2002", 25 Jul 2002 - Q: Am I also right in saying that my opponent cannot cancel it with a Fall on Your Knees as it is not a reaction during battle, but after?
A: You are. Jeff Alexander, "post for 18 June 2002", 20 Jun 2002 - Q: Ok, I know this is nit-picking but humour me for my own knowlegde- you can't play Fall on Your Knees to the Void Dragon's ability since it doen't take place during the battle action section, right?
A: Right. Jeff Alexander, "post for 6 May 2002", 7 May 2002 - Q: Just checking: Fall On Your Knees will not stop a Rally, right?
The Rules Archive says that FOYK won't stop anything that happens during or after resolution of a battle, but I am not completely sure of when Rallying Cry hits, so I wanted to ask.
A: Read the cards:
Rallying Cry Reaction: Play this card after a Resolution Segment. Your units in the battle do not become bowed by the combat.
Fall on Your Knees Reaction: Play this card when a player plays a Reaction during the Battle Action Segment. Cancel the Reaction.
Rallying Cry is not played during the Battle Action Segment. FoYK can't cancel it. Jeff Alexander, "post for 19-22 April 2002", 23 Apr 2002 - Q: What about if they Fall on Your Knees your Sneak Attack, can you cancel that?
A: Yes. Jeff Alexander, "post for 8 March 2002", 9 Mar 2002 - Q: This is important when it interacts with 'Lion Scout', 'Luring Tactics' and an oponent's 'Fall on your Knees' (cancelling Lion Scout):
Lion Scout: Reaction: Bow when one of your Lion Clan Personalities uses the Tactician trait. The Personality may use the trait one additional time this battle, but it must be a use he or she did not use previously this battle. Fall on Your Knees: Reaction: Play this card when a player plays a Reaction during the Battle Action Segment. Cancel that Reaction.
A: I don't see what the problem is. You play Sup. Strat., you react with your own Lion Scout, and your opponent cancels the Scout's Reaction with Fall On Your Knees. It seems straightforward to me. Jeff Alexander, "post for 21 February 2002", 22 Feb 2002 - Q: And, If the test itself isn't cancelled (ie by Fall on Your Knees) it will cancel the entire resolution of Encircled Terrain, right?
A: Right. That's what it says. Jeff Alexander, "post for 4 February 2002", 5 Feb 2002 - Q: 3.) Not AOF-related, but: I have Doji Kurohito XP in a battle and want to duel an opposing personality. To produce the Gold required, I use Asahina Sekawa's ability. My opponent says "aha, a Reaction" and plays Fall On Your Knees. Now:
1.) It works because it's a Reaction during a battle. 2.) It doesn't work because it's a Reaction all right, but taken by a card outside battle and not relevant to the battle either (because Sekawa reacts to the payment of Gold - IE, I am bowing zero holdings and augmenting said production with Sekawa).
Which?
A: 1.) It works because it's a Reaction during a battle. You now have the option of generating more Gold or allowing Kurohito's action to be canceled. Jeff Alexander, "post for 18 December 2001", 19 Dec 2001 - Q: When you play Fall on Your Knees to cancel a reaction, does it cancel the entire reaction?
A: Yes. Jeff Alexander, "post for 17 December 2001", 17 Dec 2001 - Q: Specifically, if I play Slaughter the Scout to bow a personality to destroy a personality, and my opponent plays Fall on Your Knees, is my personality still bowed?
A: Yes. It was a cost. Jeff Alexander, "post for 17 December 2001", 17 Dec 2001 - Q: Or, if I play Poisoned Weapon and my opponent plays Fall on Your Knees, do I still lose the honor for having played it?
A: No. That was not a cost. Jeff Alexander, "post for 17 December 2001", 17 Dec 2001 - Q: I'm fairly sure this has been answered before, but it doesn't seem to be in the rulings, so I'll answer it again.
P45 of the AOF rulebook says
"If an action is canceled, it does not count as having been taken (or even attempted),"
while p48 says
"each printed instance of a Reaction can be used only once per trigger."
For example, I'm playing Asako Towers, and my opponent targets one of my samurai with an action in battle. I bow a shugenja to cancel it. He plays Fall on Your Knees. Does my canceled action count against the "once per trigger" limitation, or can I bow another shugenja and try again?
A: You can bow another shugenja and try again. Jeff Alexander, "post for 16 December 2001", 16 Dec 2001 - Q: Another example. When one of my Tacticians make use of his trait, and my opponent uses Doji Kuwanan exp 2's ability, does playing Fall on Your Knees have any affect, or can he just use the Reaction again?
A: He can just use it again. Jeff Alexander, "post for 16 December 2001", 16 Dec 2001 - Q: For example, if Doji Kuwanan exp2's Reaction is canceled, by Fall On Your Knees or The Sun Returns, can it immediately be re-used on the same use of Tactician?
A: Yes. Jeff Alexander, "replies to 15-16 September 2001", 17 Sep 2001 - Q: snip
Sneak Attack happens before the Battle Action Segment. Yes.
Well, if Sneak Attack is exempt because of when it is played, and Fall on Your Knees can be used to cancel Sneak Attack, it falls to say that Fall on Your Knees does not need to satisfy Relevance or Presence when when cancelling Sneak Attack, because Sneak Attack does not need to satisfy Relevance and Presence.
A: Sneak Attack, by the Most Recent Printing, is played at the start of the Battle Action Segment, not before. Sneak Attack therefore does need to satisfy Presence, as does Fall On Your Knees (currently). Jeff Alexander, "replies to 15-16 September 2001", 17 Sep 2001 - Q: In a message dated Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:57:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hiruma Daigoro writes: Maybe it falls under the first of the "Cardinal Rules" listed on page 5 of the APC rulebook? Fall on Your Knees states "Play this card when a player plays a Reaction in the Battle Action Segment." Which would seem to explicitly overrule the Rule of Relevence, and therefor takes precidence over the rulebook,correct?
A: Nope. It's not explicit.
Let's look at a similar rule from Warlord. Warlord has the Golden Rule (card text overrides the rulebook when the two conflict). It also has a rule that a die roll of 1 is an automatic failure and cannot be modified or rerolled. Now, let's say there's a card reaction that lets you reroll a failed die roll. Can it be used on a 1? Looking only at the Golden Rule, the answer is "yes". This, however, would mean that the "1s can't be rerolled" rule is absolutely and utterly powerless. Jeff Alexander, "replies for 14 September", 15 Sep 2001 - Q: Can you play Fall on Your Knees to cancel a Poisoned Weapon during an I.Duel?
A: Sure. Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 31 July 2001", 1 Aug 2001 - Q: I'm going to overturn Vaughn here. The rulebook clearly states that if a Reaction makes one or more targets of an action illegal, that that action does not affect those invalid targets. This is a REVERSAL.
Well, O- Ushi Sensei is not a reaction though. I can't play a reaction in response to my opponent choosing what to check for, such as Fall on Your Knees, etc... Anyway then, my question still remains: what is the procedure for picking legal targets?
A: You have a point about O-Ushi Sensei not being a Reaction, but I'm going to stick with my reversal unless the rest of the Rules Team has serious objections. The fundamental situation is the same: a target is becoming illegal immediately after being selected. Between exactly matching the spirit and intent of the Reaction rule, and the fact that the game does not allow for repeatedly picking targets until one "works", I feel I have ruled correctly. Jeff Alexander, "Rulings for 7 February 2001", 9 Feb 2001 - Q: This question maybe old, but I have just joined the list-serv. Let's say I am in a battle opposing Bayushi Kachiko, exp. 3. I play Block Supply Lines on Kachiko. If she cancels, and I play Fall on Your Knees in response, can she try to cancel the blocks supply lines again??
A: Currently, yes. This ruling is still under debate by the Rules Team, and may change. For the time being, though, a canceled action is still considered to have never taken place, and so a canceled Reaction would be able to be used again in response to the same trigger. Kachiko's controller would have to discard another card as a cost, though. Vaughn Derderian, "Rules for January 26th", 27 Jan 2001 - Q: Can Fall on Your Knees negate Engage/Interrupt "reactions"?
A: Engage and Interrupt actions are most assuredly NOT Reactions. Jon Palmer, "Fall on Your Knees vs. Engage/Interrupt", 18 Nov 2013 - Q: [@MacBeth2001 and rules team: wanted to thank you again for all the prompt replies to my various Legacy rules questions since the Oracle came out. You rock.]
The original timing point for A Samurai's Fury was "after delayed terrains resolve", which was after the old "Battle Action" segment of a battle. In Oracle text has been rendered to "before this battle's resolution".
Given the battle sequence EE "cleanup", nothing exists (as I understand it) between the Combat segment and the Resolution segment, meaning that anything "before this battle's resolution" still happens during the Combat segment (or does it?)
Ergo, A Samurai's Fury now happens still during the Combat segment, and Fall on Your Knees is now able to negate it (which it couldn't before - that I'm pretty sure about).
Is this correct? [hopefully not. I always loved ASF. ]
A: No, the above is not correct.
Triggers:
"A trigger of "after" one step in a sequence ends will happen prior to the trigger of "before" the next step begins. Both triggers happen between the two steps. Example: A triggered trait with the trigger "after your Dynasty Phase ends" comes before a triggered trait with the trigger "before your End Phase begins,” and happens in neither phase." Brook Cunningham, "Fall on Your Knees vs. A Samurai's Fury", 19 Sep 2012 - Q: Can you use (Fall on Your Knees) to Cancel Roadside Shrine's Reaction?
A: No. The Reaction isn't in Action Segment. Zen Faulkes, "Roadside Shrine Question", 11 Apr 2005 - Q: Supposed i have Hayaku in play and 2 units opposing in a battle. I play ToDo.. on the 1st unit thus exploding my Hayaku and producing a "Range:4" action to the 2nd unit. The enemy leader cancels it with Fall On Your Knees. Can i react again with RA:4 ability from the Dying Hayaku?
afaik, it's possible on cases such as "Nizomi reacts a chi upgrade on a personality during a battle-duel" coz the source of the reaction is a card already in play and not discarded. However, on this case, Hayaku is being discarded after he reacts with RA:4.
So, what will it be?
A: Doji Hayaku says, "Reaction: Before Hayaku is destroyed:"
That would mean that Hayaku is not out of play yet when you use his ability. You play his Reaction before an Effect destroys him. If you cancel the Reaction, he's still in play and you're still on the "before" timing window. Since canceled Actions do not count towards any limit on the number of uses, Hayaku can immediately be used again. Martin Lund, "Dead Personality's Reaction", 27 Mar 2005 - Q: If I'm on a Attack Against no units and my opponent plays Refugees and I cancel with the Reaction on the Kaneka Wind, can my opponent play Fall On Your Knees to cancel de reaction? Even without presence in the current battle?
A: Yes (Diamond rules, pg. 80). Zen Faulkes, "2 Questions", 21 Mar 2005 - Q: It's my turn to Focus: I chose to react with Wrath of the Emperor ("Reaction: Instead of focusing in a duel, ..."). My opponent plays Fall on Your Knees. What next?
A: This one: Zen Faulkes, "Duels: instead of focusing - cancel vs. negate", 12 Mar 2005 - Q: Could I play Fall On Your Knees on my opponents Same Old Tricks, deliberately creating a situation, where the game is locked (e.g. he has no more cards, therefore I know that this will be the case)?
A: Yes.
It's amazing what goes through your head while you're getting your teeth cleaned. It took me a while, but I have a rule-based answer now.
The first ability on Troll War band is not targeted (Web of Lies rulesheet). Therefore, it is legal to take regardless of whether there is a Province in the battle or not. Obviously, the reduction in Province strength will fail, but this removes the possibility of mandated actions by an unbowed Troll War Band. If a player chooses to use the Experienced Hoshi Eisai's ability repeatedly in this situation, then that player is stalling. Zen Faulkes, "Troll War Band", 12 Mar 2005 - Q: Latomu:
Unicorn Clan Personalities you control have the ability: "Reaction: After moving to a battlefield: Produce a ranged attack with a strength equal to the number of Regions in play."
Slaughter the Scout:
Reaction: After a target unit moves into a Province opposing one of your target Personalities, bow your Personality to destroy that unit.
Let's say my opponent has Latomu exp in play among other personalities. He declares an attack. I defend with Chimori and Amika at province 1.
My Opponent brings in Loruko and use her Reaction given by Latomu.
As active player, my opponent has first opportunity to react to Loruko's moving into the battlefield.
I play Fall on Your Knees, canceling the Ranged Attack. So, if I get this right, we go back to the trigger of Loruko moving to the Battlefield but now it's my turn to react to that trigger.
I bow my Chimori to pay for Slaughter the Scout.
Is this play sequence correct?
If yes, I'm assuming Loruko dies without being able to React again to her moving into the Battlefield.
Am I right?
A: No. This is a case of a plyer causing a trigger, so first opportunity goes to opponent (Diamond rules, pg. 75). Zen Faulkes, "Latomu exp, FoYK and Slaughter the Scout", 10 Mar 2005 - Q: Could I play Fall On Your Knees on my opponents Same Old Tricks, deliberately creating a situation, where the game is locked (e.g. he has no more cards, therefore I know that this will be the case)?
A: Yes. Zen Faulkes, "Troll War Band", 8 Mar 2005 - Q: Is this a legal sequence of events:
Player A bows his stronghold to negate one of his units from going home with Kaneka as a wind
Player B plays FOYK
Player A plays FOYK targeting the first FOYK
Player B plays Misdirection redirecting Player A's FOYK to his own reaction to prevent his unit from going home.
If this isnt legal can Player B play Misdirection redirecting Player A's FOYK to Player B's Misdirection.
A: You can't redirect Fall on Your Knees because it doesn't target.
Due to its timing trigger, there is never more than one Reaction it can legally be played against. It can only be played against the Reaction that the current Timing Window is associated with. Reaction aren't like "Instants" in Magic. They can only be played at their legal trigger.
The sequence would work like this:
Send Home Effect
--> Reactions to Send Home Effect (and only that) must be played now
--> Reaction Played: Righ Hand
----> Reactions to Right Hand (and only that) must be played now
----> Reaction Played: Fall on Your Knees #1
------> Reactions to Fall on Your Knees #1 (and only that) must be played now
------> Reaction Played: Fall on Your Knees #2
--------> Reactions to Fall on Your Knees #2 (and only that) must be played now
--------> All players pass
------> Fall on Your Knees #2 resolves, canceling Fall on Your Knees #1, which can no longer be responded to.
----> Reactions to Right Hand (and only that) must be played now
----> All players pass
--> Right Hand resolves, Negating Send Home Effect.
No effects. Timing Windows closes. Next opportunity to take a Battle or Open Action. Martin Lund, "Fall On Your Knees/Misdirection", 5 Mar 2005 - Q: If I fall my opponent's Smoke and Mirrors, do they get another chance to focus or is it my turn?
A: Your turn. As mentioned by others in this thread, your opponent opted to play a Reaction instead of focusing, and cancelled Reactions do not turn back the clock. Zen Faulkes, "Smoke and Mirrors and Fall on Your Knees", 22 Feb 2005 - Q: [OBH] Can you play Fall on your Knees in a Battle without any personality in play at all? Neither the province attacked or home
A: Yes. Reactions are not restricted by the Rule of Presence. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 2 Nov 2025 - Q: alright. So, even if a card like Fall On Your Knees was printed in the next base set or something, it would have to have a triggered trait to function. and then you couldn't use another one to cancel the first.
A: I mean, there are pros and cons to the current Interrupt/Response system and to the previous Reaction system. Reactions certainly weren't quite as strict with their timing, which can be kind of awkward when you have to butt into someone doing their own thing to say you have something to play. But we've managed to survive with triggered traits having stuck around since Reactions were removed, and Reaction are basically those, except voluntary and sometimes from your hand as a surprise. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 26 Sep 2025 - Q: @Brook Cunningham hi, can "Fall on your knees" cancel an "interrupt" such as the The Suns Return? In legacy (OBH)
A: I can find no OBH Rule that makes Reactions and Interrupts equivalent, so no, Fall on Your Knees cannot negate Interrupts. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 26 Jan 2025 - Q: Question: My opponent plays Tactical Assault during battle targeting my personality. I react with Flee the Darkness to cancel it. In response, he plays Fall on Your Knees. Can I still react to Tactical Assault or has the reaction window closed?
A: I assume you mean "Assault" not "Advantage" in sentence 4? It rather depends on what you want to React with. Another copy of Flee the Darkness, perhaps? That would be fine; the window hasn't closed. The Fall happened "inside" the Flee (in a way), so the game hasn't moved past Flee's trigger-point yet. Brook Cunningham, "Oracle of the Void #rules", 23 Sep 2024 - Q: Question: My opponent plays Tactical Assault during battle targeting my personality. I react with Flee the Darkness to cancel it. In response, he plays Fall on Your Knees. Can I still react to Tactical Assault or has the reaction window closed?
A: I assume you meant "Assault" not "Advantage" in sentence 4? It rather depends on what you want to React with. Another copy of Flee the Darkness, perhaps? That would be fine; the window hasn't closed. The Fall happened "inside" the Flee (in a way), so the game hasn't moved past Flee's trigger-point yet.
Sorry, I edited the above a few times for accuracy, but it should be good now. 🙂
(Replying to a player: "Thanks. I'm assuming the Emperor Edition CR had the rules on reaction windows?") Possibly? I mean, there's pretty much no difference at all between resolving a Reaction and resolving a triggered trait, except the former is an action and voluntary, the latter is not.
(Replying to a player: "Thanks. I'm assuming the Emperor Edition CR had the rules on reaction windows?") Oh, and being voluntary and actions means they're taken in a back and forth (or around the table) manner, whereas traits with all the same trigger would resolve (mostly) in an order determined by the active player. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 23 Sep 2024 - Q: Can you use "Fall On Your Knees" to cancel a rallying cry/spearhead?
A: Nope. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 12 Nov 2023