Flame and Lightning

Legend of the Five Rings card from Promotional–Diamond

Card Type

Strategy

Gold Cost

0

Card Text

Limited: Your target performing unbowed Personality challenges a another player's target Personality. Permanently remove all abilities and traits from the loser.

Focus Value

4

Legality

Age of Enlightenment (Lotus), Rain of Blood (Diamond)

Deck

Fate

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: Furumaro (relevant text) Reaction: Before an action destroys Furumaro: Negate his destruction.
  Daigotsu Eiya non-xp (relevant text) After Eiya enters play: Lose 3 Honor. All duels involving Eiya destroy the duel's loser.
  Flame and Lightning Limited: Choose your performing unbowed Personality and target another player's Personality: Your Personality duels the target. Permanently remove all abilities and traits from the duel's loser.
  Assume I play F&L using Eiya targeting Furumaro (on my turn) - and win the duel
  Do I get to choose the sequence of effects so as to remove his Reaction ability first, then destroy him (in such a way that the the ability can't be used)?
  A: Upon looking at Daigotsu Eiya, it was decided his trait could use some more modernizing for clarity. So, it now looks a lot more like Kakita Ichigiku's.
  Now, this does mean that you don't get to choose the order, because the implication from "additional" in Ichigiku's and (now) Eiya's trait is that the destruction occurs after the duel's normal consequences for losing. However, this does work out the way you want (if you're not Furumaro's controller ), in that Furumaro's ability would indeed be removed before he could use it to save himself. Brook Cunningham, "Flame and Lightning, Daigotsu Eiya, Furumaro", 19 Sep 2012
• Q: And Flame and Lightning removes the traits that says “this xxx abilities can not be copied” right? For example Y. Sachina exp, Shadow dragon exp2, M. Nimuro exp2, A. Usohara
  A: I only checked Nimuro and trusted you on the others, but yes. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 26 Oct 2025
• Q: [Open] Just asking if this would work. If I remove a personalities ability with VTD(until end of turn) and then use Flame and Lightning and lost the duel. Would the ability removed by VTD return at the end of turn?
  A: Yeah, that seems it would be the case. If the ability is removed until end of turn, it's not around at the time to be affected by all abilities being removed permanently, so it would return at end of turn. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 26 Oct 2025