Forest Killer Cavern
Legend of the Five Rings card from Samurai Edition, Path of Hope, Tomorrow, Glory of the Empire, Promotional–Samurai
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Holding
- Gold Cost
- 2
- Card Text
- w: Produce 2 Gold plus the number of Wealth tokens on this card.
Limited: Dishonor your target performing Personality and target another player's Holding to add a Wealth token to this card. Remove a Wealth token from the target, if any. - Legality
- Age of Enlightenment (Lotus), Race for the Throne (Samurai)
- Deck
- Dynasty
Printings
Samurai Edition
- Rarity
- Common
- Flavor Text
- The Forest Killers are gone, but their memory haunts many.
- Artist
- Jeff Menges
- Card Number
- 26
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Path of Hope
- Rarity
- Common
- Artist
- Jeff Menges
- Card Number
- 75
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Tomorrow
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- "Empty now. Good-good for hiding."
- Artist
- Jeff Menges
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Glory of the Empire
- Rarity
- Starter
- Flavor Text
- The Forest Killers are gone, but their memory haunts many.
- Artist
- Jeff Menges
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Promotional–Samurai
- Rarity
- Promo
- Flavor Text
- The Forest Killers are gone, but their memory haunts many.
- Artist
- Jeff Menges
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rulings
- Erratum: Reads, "Forest Killer Cavern 2G Bow this card: Produce 2 Gold plus 1 Gold for each Wealth token on this card. Limited: Dishonor one of your target Personalities: Add a Wealth token to this card. You may target another player's holding and remove a Wealth token from it." [MRP, Tomorrow, 12 March 2007] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 81
- Erratum: Reads, “Forest Killer Cavern Bow this card: Produce 2 Gold plus 1 Gold for each Wealth token on this card. Limited: Dishonor one of your target Personalities: Add a Wealth token to this card. You may target another player’s Holding and remove a Wealth token from it.” [MRP, Samurai Edition, 25 July 2007] Comprehensive Rules, Samurai Edition, with specific card rulings, final version, May 2009, p. 136
Rules Q&A
- Q: I'm like 90% certain that's how it would work. If you played all Wealth tokens as +1 GP Wealth tokens, cards like The Mikado, Secluded Waystation, Forest Killer Cavern would always count double. Considering that would break the intent of this:
A: Hm. Pre-Coils of Madness, the gold production bonus from Wealth tokens was granted by the card that creates the Wealth token. As of CoM, effects that create Wealth tokens all create +1GP Wealth tokens.
So there's a disconnect between them.
Like, Nogoten's bow gives out -2C poison tokens, unlike the frequent -1/-1 ones from Emperor. Game's just like that.
Tbf, the only card that would get complicated if you changed all the pre-CoM cards to work like the CoM+ cards is Sennin.
Bad example, I misremembeed the card (edited now); but you get my point.
As in, Secluded Waystation probably should just be
After the first time each turn this Holding produces Gold, put a +1GP Wealth token on it. (bow) Produce 2 Gold. Cornered Market:
Political Limited: Bow your target performing Courtier to give a target Holding a +1 GP Wealth token.
A fair point, but it's a fine line between fixing those or just leaving the odd interaction so they work as printed and you don't have to consult the Oracle about them? :/ Alex Jones and Brook Cunningham, "Oracle of the Void #rules", 24 Apr 2023