Hida Kuon

Legend of the Five Rings card from Broken Blades

Card Type

Personality

Force

8

Chi

5

Honor Requirement

6

Gold Cost

15

Personal Honor

2

Clan

Crab

Keywords

Double Chi, Experienced 2, Loyal, Unique, Yu 5, Clan Champion, Crab Clan, General, Samurai

Card Text

Tireless Battle: Once per battle, target a Personality in Kuon's army. Straighten the target's unit.

Legality

Four Winds (Gold)

Deck

Dynasty

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: When I search my deck for a specific card (EG with Boundless Sight), can I voluntarily fail to find a card? (EG Hida Kuon is the only guy left and I don't have his honour requirement this turn).
  From the Rules for 8 March 2004, Jeff said:
  A: "> Any card that says 'Search your deck': Martin Lund, "Rules for 6 October 2004", 11 Oct 2004
• Q: My follow-on question is on what keeps a theoretically infinite RA from being declared as the last RA from Kuro's. Because we now know that the upper bound of KF is violatable, what keeps Agasha Seruma with Kuro's Fire from killing Hida Kuon by declaring a RA10, letting it resolve, then end the KF effect by having gone over the limit?
  A: If nothing known is going to reduce it into a legal range, you can't declare it that big to begin with. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 8 March 2004", 9 Mar 2004
• Q: OK this came up in a game a few nights ago. If Ninja Shapeshifter copies Hida Wukau (Experienced) Ability and uses it on say Hida Kuon does it last until The ninja shapeshifter uses it again or does it fall into the "May remained Bowed" Catagory on PG68?
  A: It falls into the latter category. It ends when the ability disappears. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 1 March 2004", 2 Mar 2004
• Q: If I target a Personality with Daigotsu, reducing that cards Force to zero, do weapon and items attached give him/her bonuses? Example: Hida Kuon (Exp. 2) with a plus two Force Weapon and one Light Infantry, after being effected with the Wind is he zero Force with a two Force follower or does he still get the two Force from the weapon and the two Force from the follower?
  A: Kuon's force would be zero, but the force of his Unit would be 2. When Daigotsu is used, the target's force is reduced to zero. This effectively removes all bonuses the Personality had received from previous effects. It does not, however, reduce the force of his Unit to zero, and since most followers add to the force of the Unit rather than directly to the Personality, Daigotsu won't affect their force contribution. Vaughn Derderian, "Post for June 23rd, 2003", 23 Jun 2003
• Q: 1) I was in the process of overlaying Hida Kuon exp2 over Hida Kuon non-exp. Obviously, the price difference is 8. Can two Hiruma Dojos be utilized in order to reduce Hida Kuon exp2's cost by 8, and overlay him without gold cost at that point?
  A: Yes. Jeff Alexander, "post for 5 May 2003", 6 May 2003
• Q: 3) Can I have Hida Kuon experienced and Hida Kuon xp2 on the table at the same time without having to overlay?
  A: No. [GE p. 36] You cannot play or overlay a card if it would result in having two cards in play with the same title and the Unique trait. Jeff Alexander, "post for 28 January 2003", 29 Jan 2003
• Q: I buy Tsuruchi Etsui Experienced, and target a Personality (say, Hida Kuon) in play. I then overlay onto him Tsuruchi Etsui Experienced 2. As long as Tsuruchi Etsui Experienced 2 remains in play and unbowed, will Kuon's controller be able to assign or move him to battles?
  A: It's an ongoing effect. http://rules.l5r.com/Effects#Duration_of_effects: "Ongoing effects do not end if the card they came from leaves play." Tentatively, I think a logical extension from that is that ongoing effects do not end if card text is removed. The effect has resolved and the conditions for ending it have not changed. Zen Faulkes, "Tsuruchi Etsui exp, Tsuruchi Etsui exp2", 21 Dec 2007
• Q: Hi!
  Regarding this:
  viewtopic.php?f=59&t=61970
  Could you please clarify? To whose action are you pertaining? To the Seat of Power or (let's say the action whose target being changed is) Hired Killer?
  Isn't the action (if the target is being changed) on the control of the one taking the action? That is;
  A) I Hired Killer Hida Kuon B) Player B plays Seat of Power and activates the redirection C) (Please clarify if this is correct) Since I'm the one originally playing Hired Killer, and Seat of Power states that I'll have to choose another target, this just means that I can choose any personality with the exception of Hida Kuon?
  Thanks!
  A: The person taking the action on seat of power chooses the new target. Chris Fuchs, "RE: Seat of Power", 24 Sep 2007
• Q: 2nd question:
  I wanted to come on the Determination vs Determination subject.
  If I target Hida Kuon with Hired Killer and target one of my samurai to play Determination on the Hired Killer, can my opponent play Determination on Seat of Power's reaction to be able to redirect the Hired Killer even if Determination has been played on it ? Which Determination would beat the other ?
  A: I would be inclined to say the last one to be played would "trump" the other, but I'll forward it up to the entire Rules Team proper to give you the official word on that. Martin Lund, "Misdirection and "up to"/ Determination vs Determination", 30 Jul 2007