Hida Kuon

Legend of the Five Rings card from A Perfect Cut

Card Type

Personality

Force

5

Chi

4

Honor Requirement

8

Gold Cost

11

Personal Honor

2

Clan

Crab

Keywords

Double Chi, Unique, Yu 5, Crab Clan, Experienced, General, Samurai

Card Text

Followers with 2 or more Force attached to your Crab Clan Personalities have +1F.

Legality

Four Winds (Gold)

Deck

Dynasty

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: When I search my deck for a specific card (EG with Boundless Sight), can I voluntarily fail to find a card? (EG Hida Kuon is the only guy left and I don't have his honour requirement this turn).
  From the Rules for 8 March 2004, Jeff said:
  A: "> Any card that says 'Search your deck': Martin Lund, "Rules for 6 October 2004", 11 Oct 2004
• Q: My follow-on question is on what keeps a theoretically infinite RA from being declared as the last RA from Kuro's. Because we now know that the upper bound of KF is violatable, what keeps Agasha Seruma with Kuro's Fire from killing Hida Kuon by declaring a RA10, letting it resolve, then end the KF effect by having gone over the limit?
  A: If nothing known is going to reduce it into a legal range, you can't declare it that big to begin with. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 8 March 2004", 9 Mar 2004
• Q: OK this came up in a game a few nights ago. If Ninja Shapeshifter copies Hida Wukau (Experienced) Ability and uses it on say Hida Kuon does it last until The ninja shapeshifter uses it again or does it fall into the "May remained Bowed" Catagory on PG68?
  A: It falls into the latter category. It ends when the ability disappears. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 1 March 2004", 2 Mar 2004
• Q: 3) Can I have Hida Kuon experienced and Hida Kuon xp2 on the table at the same time without having to overlay?
  A: No. [GE p. 36] You cannot play or overlay a card if it would result in having two cards in play with the same title and the Unique trait. Jeff Alexander, "post for 28 January 2003", 29 Jan 2003
• Q: Just a quick rules question -
  If I have a Hida Kuon exp in play, along with a plethora of 1F followers attached to crab peeps (for the purposes of this lets call them farmlands followers).
  Now Twenty Goblin Winter resolves, giving all the farmlands followers +1F (up to 2F each now). This brings them all in range of getting Kuon exp's bonus putting them all at 3F each.
  Now my question is when the window of effect for Twenty Goblin Winter expires (Until the start of your next turn....) will the force of all these followers return to being just 1 or will it remain at two (remembering that due to both bonuses being active at no time do the followers drop to being 1F, as when the effect of the event ends the force of the followers is still above 1F, thanks to Kuon exp's bonus)?
  A: Kuon Exp. only boosts Followers who have more than 1F without the help of his bonus. Jeff Alexander, "post for 6 February 2002", 7 Feb 2002
• Q: Second example: Hida Kuon exp has a Medium Infantry attached. The Medium Infantry get +1F because Kuon is so buff. I drop an ISOF. Do the Medium Infantry go back to 3F?
  A: No. Jeff Alexander, "post for 7 December 2001", 8 Dec 2001
• Q: If Akasha I. Challenges Hida Kuon (PH1), who refuses and commits seppuku, and Ide Michisuna reacts, does the Crab player lose 2 honor or 8? In other words, since Michsuna "negates the re-honoring", is he also negating the ability to reduce the honor loss from 7 to 1?
  A: 2. Only the restoration to honor is negated. The reduction of the loss from 7 to 1 still happens. Jeff Alexander, "post for 15 October 2001", 16 Oct 2001
• Q: I buy Tsuruchi Etsui Experienced, and target a Personality (say, Hida Kuon) in play. I then overlay onto him Tsuruchi Etsui Experienced 2. As long as Tsuruchi Etsui Experienced 2 remains in play and unbowed, will Kuon's controller be able to assign or move him to battles?
  A: It's an ongoing effect. http://rules.l5r.com/Effects#Duration_of_effects: "Ongoing effects do not end if the card they came from leaves play." Tentatively, I think a logical extension from that is that ongoing effects do not end if card text is removed. The effect has resolved and the conditions for ending it have not changed. Zen Faulkes, "Tsuruchi Etsui exp, Tsuruchi Etsui exp2", 21 Dec 2007
• Q: Hi!
  Regarding this:
  viewtopic.php?f=59&t=61970
  Could you please clarify? To whose action are you pertaining? To the Seat of Power or (let's say the action whose target being changed is) Hired Killer?
  Isn't the action (if the target is being changed) on the control of the one taking the action? That is;
  A) I Hired Killer Hida Kuon B) Player B plays Seat of Power and activates the redirection C) (Please clarify if this is correct) Since I'm the one originally playing Hired Killer, and Seat of Power states that I'll have to choose another target, this just means that I can choose any personality with the exception of Hida Kuon?
  Thanks!
  A: The person taking the action on seat of power chooses the new target. Chris Fuchs, "RE: Seat of Power", 24 Sep 2007
• Q: 2nd question:
  I wanted to come on the Determination vs Determination subject.
  If I target Hida Kuon with Hired Killer and target one of my samurai to play Determination on the Hired Killer, can my opponent play Determination on Seat of Power's reaction to be able to redirect the Hired Killer even if Determination has been played on it ? Which Determination would beat the other ?
  A: I would be inclined to say the last one to be played would "trump" the other, but I'll forward it up to the entire Rules Team proper to give you the official word on that. Martin Lund, "Misdirection and "up to"/ Determination vs Determination", 30 Jul 2007