Honorable Death
Legend of the Five Rings card from Empire at War
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Card Text
- After your Action Phase ends: Give each of your Deathseeker Personalities a +1F Fury token; then, for each of your Deathseekers who has a number of Fury tokens greater than or equal to his base Force, destroy him and gain 1 Honor.
Limited: Put this card in play. - Focus Value
- 1
- Legality
- Destroyer War (Celestial)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Empire at War
- Rarity
- Uncommon
- Flavor Text
- "Your Deathseekers seem overjoyed to die. It makes little sense to me." - Hida Benjiro
- Artist
- Gong Studios
- Card Number
- 129
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rulings
- Multiple copies of this card in play will give multiple Fury tokens, but each Deathseeker that is destroyed will usually leave play before they can be counted for multiple Honor gains. [Empire at War rulesheet] Comprehensive Rules, Celestial Edition, with specific card rulings, final version, February 2012, p. 138
Rules Q&A
- Q: Regarding this thread: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=86802
Zen's answer would appear to contradict this from the checklist/rules sheet included with Empire at War starters:
"Honorable Death: Multiple copies of this card in play will give multiple Fury tokens, but each Deathseeker that is destroyed will usually leave play before he can be counted for multiple Honor gains."
Is Zen correct or is the rules sheet?
Thanks, Mark
A: I am wrong. Alas, the Rule's Junta's reference set doesn't always include the rules sheets, and that was the case with Empire at War.
What's going on is that there is a timing conflict, because each card is causing a separate delayed effect that has to be resolved, in order, before the next delayed effect caused by the next card occurs (see).
Honorable Death #1 checks for tokens on Personalities, destroys Personalities, gives honor.
Honorable Death #2 checks for tokens on Personalities, finds none (all destroyed), gives nothing. Zen Faulkes, "Multiple copies of Honorable Death", 9 Oct 2010 - Q: If I have multiple copies of Honorable Death in play, when a Deathseeker dies from fury tokens do all copies of Honorable Death trigger and produce honor?
A: Yes. Each honor gain is a separate effect, and each is only dependent on having Deathseeker with the right number of tokens.
[Additional: Correction below.] Zen Faulkes, "Multiple copies of Honorable Death", 9 Oct 2010