Insolence Punished
Legend of the Five Rings card from Khan's Defiance, Samurai Edition Banzai
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Card Text
- Battle: Target your Personality and an enemy Personality with equal or lower Chi: You may also target one or more enemy dishonorable Personalities. Move all targets home. This action's effects on dishonorable Personalities will not be negated.
- Focus Value
- 3
- Legality
- Age of Enlightenment (Lotus), Race for the Throne (Samurai)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Khan's Defiance
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "I have found him, my lord. His threat ends now." - Shosuro Yudoka
- Artist
- Thomas Denmark
- Card Number
- 112
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Samurai Edition Banzai
- Rarity
- Rare
- Artist
- Thomas Denmark
- Card Number
- 74
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: In response to: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=69488
Wouldn't you be able to redirect the initial targeting before the dishonorable targets are chosen? As they are chosen in order listed on the card.
A: See Required targeting.
The targets "one of your Personalities" and "a Personality opposing him with lower Chi" are required targets, so they are chosen during the Required Targeting step of the action. However, the targets "any number of dishonorable Personalities in the current enemy army" are optional, since Insolence Punished says, "You may target", so they are chosen during the Action Resolves step. This difference in the timing is because of the wording, not because of the order of the sentences.
In the example as given, the required targeting can't be changed, since only Saya and Haruko are targeted, and Seat of Power doesn't react to either target. The optional targeting can't be changed either, since the valid potential targets are Kuon and Daizu (they are the only "dishonourable Personalities in the current enemy army") and the Scorpion player has targeted both. Any attempt to shift the targeting of Kuon onto Daizu would require Daizu to be double targeted by the same targeting instance, and that - as is made very clear by the various links pointed out by Zen - is not permitted. Alex Jones, "Seat of Power vs. Insolence Punished", 21 Jul 2008 - Q: An action’s required targets consist of anything that is targeted by the player taking the action in the action's constraints or effects, unless the targeting is shown to be optional by terms such as “may target,” or “lose 2 Honor or target a Personality you control.”
A: - Marty Lund Deputy Rules Monkey Martin Lund, "Insolence Punished", 1 Aug 2007 - Q: If I target dishonored personality A with Impressive Resilience and he is later targeted by Insolence Punished, does he go home(?)
A: Yes. Zen Faulkes, "Impressive Resilience + Insolence Punished", 11 Jun 2007 - Q: Can I play Test of Courage on a dishonored personality being moved home from Insolence Punished?
A: It is legal to play, but the movement from Insolence Punished will happen and not be negated. Zen Faulkes, "Test of Courage + Insolence Punished", 29 May 2007