Kokujin Konetsu
Legend of the Five Rings card from Rise of the Shogun
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Personality
- Force
- 4
- Chi
- 4
- Honor Requirement
- -
- Gold Cost
- 5
- Personal Honor
- 0
- Clan
- Brotherhood of Shinsei, Unaligned
- Keywords
- Experienced Konetsu, Unique, Courtier, Lost, Monk, Shadowlands
- Card Text
- After Konetsu enters play, lose 4 Honor.
Maho Battle/Open: Konetsu copies one of a target Shadowlands Human Personality's abilities that does not itself copy abilities. - Legality
- Age of Enlightenment (Lotus)
- Deck
- Dynasty
Printings
Rise of the Shogun
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "There comes a time when blood and death are not enough. Is there nothing more we can achieve?"
- Artist
- Chris Seaman
- Card Number
- 64
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: Bit of a convoluted example here, bear with me.
I am playing a Scorpion deck that, to the great disappointment of the Kuroiban, has embraced the power of the Shadowlands. I have used an effect to give my copy of Bayushi Rentatsu the Shadowlands trait. I then copy Rentatsu's ability with Kokujin Konetsu Exp. I then bow Konetsu to use the ability he has copied from Rentatsu.
What happens with Konetsu at the start of my next turn? His base ability has a non-specific duration, so it ends at the end of the turn in which he uses it. Does the effect of his copied ability continue such that, though he no longer has the ability from which the effect derived, he may continue to negate his straightening and thereby generate 2 Honor Loss at the start of my next turn?
Relevant cards: Kokujin Konetsu Maho Battle/Open: Target a Shadowlands Human Personality: Choose one of his abilities that does not itself copy abilities. Konetsu copies it.
Bayushi Rentatsu Limited: Bow Rentatsu: While Rentatsu remains bowed, you may negate his straightening and after each of your turns begins, choose a player; he loses 2 Honor.
Edited to clarify which ability I'm referencing in the question.
A: Once an action has been announced, it does not matter what happens to the ability it comes from.
For example, a Personality targeted by The Spirit of Knowledge keeps Tactician even if the Strategy it came from is removed from the game or shuffled back into your deck.
If Kokujin Konetsu copies Rentatsu's ability and uses it, the action will continue to generate honour losses as long as Konetsu remains bowed. Alex Jones, "Temporary Copying of Abilities with Ongoing Effects", 4 May 2012