Kyogen
Legend of the Five Rings card from The Imperial Gift 2
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Personality
- Force
- 3
- Chi
- 2
- Honor Requirement
- -
- Gold Cost
- 4
- Personal Honor
- 1
- Clan
- Unaligned
- Keywords
- Actor, Ronin
- Card Text
- Open: Kyogen copies one keyword from your target Personality.
- Legality
- Destroyer War (Celestial)
- Deck
- Dynasty
Printings
The Imperial Gift 2
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- "Now I will perform for you the tragic tale of Matsu Itagi and Hida Tadaka, great men undone by pride despite all their prowess."
- Artist
- IFS
- Card Number
- 42
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: Is Genmyo legal to play as Myuken? They're both Soul of Kyogen with the same stats and battle action?
A: No, you may not play Genmyo. Jon Palmer, "Myuken / Genmyo / Kyogen", 1 Apr 2014 - Q: Myuken Force 3/Chi2 HR-/GC4/PH1 Keywords: Actor • Ronin • Soul of Kyogen Open: Myuken copies one keyword from your target Personality.
If Myuken copy the keyword shugenja, after that, I attached a spell to him. ¿ When begin the opponent's turn the spell must be unattached as Myuken isn't shugenja in this moment?
If Myuken copy the keyword Kensai, after that, I attached two weapons to him. ¿When begin the opponent's turn the second weapon must be unattached as Myuken isn't kensai in this moment?
Regards,
A: In both cases, as long as the attachment was legal when you made it, the card will stay attached. However, there's an additional caveat to spells, in that they can only be used by shugenja, so Myuken will need to copy the keyword again if he wishes to use it. Jon Palmer, "Myuken with attachment of spell or weapon", 3 Mar 2014 - Q: In regards to this ruling: http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=83279
I get and understand the ruling, makes sense to me, I just have one question about it. At what point does the Loyal keyword copied onto Kyogen go away? I assume from the general rule that actions that have no defined time span are by default until end of turn. If so, doesn't Kyogen and Enticement then have the same ending time frame? And if they do have the same ending time frame, wouldn't then it be the active player's choice which resolves and ends first, thus giving the active player the possibility of removing "Loyal" from Kyogen and allowing Enticement to return him to his original owner? I may have easily missed a common sense point in all this, I am no rules lawyer but I was reading other rulings just before this and active player's choice in resolving actions made me think if the timing on this was accurate is all. Thank you very much for your time and thoughts.
A: Whoopsy. Look what got discussed then forgotten by the wayside due to merging threads! Apologies.
We decided that "Until the turn ends/end of the turn" is always after "Before the turn ends". "Until" by itself, is sort of a "when", or at least exists in some unique slot between "before" and "when", but we're SURE that it comes after "before".
Ahem.
So, there is no conflict; Kyogen's copying always ends after Enticement's return effect. No matter whose turn it is, a Loyal Kyogen will always fail to return from Enticement and then lose "Loyal" after that. Brook Cunningham, "Loyal Kyogen Enticement", 3 Nov 2010 - Q: Hey there,
If i copy the oni keyword with kyogen and then perform Drinking One's Life with him, will the effect end once kyogen loses the oni keyword?
I'm not sure about this cause of the "while your oni remains in play" clause. Kyogen is still in play but no longer is he oni.
Thanks in advance.
A: "Your Oni" on Drinking One's life is self referential.
If Kyogen plays it (after copying Oni), as long as he remains in play, Drinking One's Life's effects will continue per card text. Dan Jacobson, "Kyogen + Oni + Drinking One's Life", 6 May 2010 - Q: What happens if I entice Kyogen, and give him the loyal keyword?
1) Does he explode because Kyogen and I don't share a Clan Allignment? 2) Does he explode upon returning to his owner at the end of my turn, as they do not share clan allignments? 3) Do I keep him forever?
A: The correct answer is 3). His Loyal keyword will cause Enticement's delayed effect of returning him to his controller to fail. Brook Cunningham, "Loyal Kyogen Enticement", 2 May 2010 - Q: Furthermore, if option 3 is correct, does that further imply that I can never attack with my new Kyogen ever?
A: Nothing "implied" about it. Quite explicitly, you may not assign Kyogen to attack and he will not move to attack "while you control him". If you never stop controlling him, this ongoing effect never ends. Brook Cunningham, "Loyal Kyogen Enticement", 2 May 2010