Kyuden Hida
Legend of the Five Rings card from Celestial Edition, A Perfect Cut, Diamond Edition, Promotional–Diamond, Celestial Edition 15th Anniversary, Promotional–Celestial
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Stronghold
- Province Strength
- 8
- Gold Production
- 4
- Starting Family Honor
- 3
- Clan
- Crab
- Card Text
- Reaction: After a Follower enters play from your hand, draw a card.
- Legality
- Destroyer War (Celestial), Four Winds (Gold), Rain of Blood (Diamond)
- Deck
- Pre-Game
Printings
Celestial Edition
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- The training grounds for the legions of the Crab Clan, Kyuden Hida supplies the backbone of the Crab armies.
- Artist
- Charles Urbach
- Card Number
- 378
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
A Perfect Cut
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Artist
- Michael Phillippi
- Card Number
- 137
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Diamond Edition
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Artist
- Michael Phillippi
- Card Number
- 453
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Promotional–Diamond
- Rarity
- Promo
- Artist
- Michael Phillippi
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Celestial Edition 15th Anniversary
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- The training grounds for the legions of the Crab Clan, Kyuden Hida supplies the backbone of the Crab armies.
- Artist
- Charles Urbach
- Card Number
- 378
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Promotional–Celestial
- Rarity
- Promo
- Flavor Text
- The training grounds for the legions of the Crab Clan, Kyuden Hida supplies the backbone of the Crab armies.
- Artist
- Charles Urbach
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rulings
- Erratum: Reads, "Kyuden Hida 8PS 4GP 3FH Reaction: Once per turn, after you put a Follower into play from your hand, draw an additional card during your next End Phase." [MRP, Diamond Edition, 27 October 2003] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 149
- Erratum: Reads, "Kyuden Hida 8PS 4G 3FH Reaction: After the resolution of an action whose effects attached a Follower from your hand: Draw a card." [MRP, Celestial Edition, 29 June 2009] Comprehensive Rules, Celestial Edition, with specific card rulings, final version, February 2012, p. 143
- The ability on Kyuden Hida now reads, "Reaction: After you attach a Follower from your hand: Draw a card." [CE 15 MRP, 22 March 2010] Comprehensive Rules, Celestial Edition, with specific card rulings, final version, February 2012, p. 143
Rules Q&A
- Q: Hi All,
can the reaction ( draw an extra card) be used if the stronghold is bowed
A: No. Jeff Alexander, "rules for 24 March 2004", 26 Mar 2004 - Q: Does a card (Kyuden Hida) need to be unbowed to use its reaction?
A: Yes (Gold Edition rulebook, pg. 24). Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 9 September 2003", 9 Sep 2003 - Q: Maybe someone who knows the rules better than myself can answer this question for me...
I'm playing my crab military deck using Kyuden Hida as my stronghold. Its about the 10th turn and I have in my hand two ashigaru archers, a rally cry, hunter, ring of the void. After paying for hunter with my bushi dojo and I have enough gold to pay for the archers. I then attack and when the attack is over I play rallying cry, leaving me with the ring of the void in my hand. Normally I would receive a card for playing hunter by using Kyuden hidas reaction. Plus two more for the Ashigaro archers plus the one card for my normal draw.
My question is after I play rally cry can i play ring of the void?
A: Absolutely. It's the only card in your hand, after all. Jeff Alexander, "post for 2 August 2002", 3 Aug 2002 - Q: Ie, let's say you have Kyuden Hida and a jade works. Someone plays deeds not words, and you have Hida Kuroda (6/7/3) as your only affordable peep.
Can you either: A - bring him out reduced @ 5 gold, even though you paid 7 B - pay 7 for him and just say you're not taking the honour (and consequently you dont loose 3 honour to deeds, not words?).
A: A is legal, B is not. Jeff Alexander, "post for 13 February 2002", 14 Feb 2002 - Q: Can you draw the extra card if you payed for the follower while the stronghold is bowed?
A: Actions on cards and Strongholds cannot be used if the card or Stronghold is bowed. [AOF rulebook p. 24] No. Jeff Alexander, "post for 28 January 2002", 29 Jan 2002 - Q: For Kyuden Hida do you only get to draw the extra card if the SH was unbowed when you attached the follower?
A: You can only use the Reaction if the Stronghold is unbowed when you attach the Follower. Once used, the Stronghold does not need to be unbowed during your End Phase to draw the card. Jeff Alexander, "post for 2 November 2001", 3 Nov 2001 - Q: Did a search on this, didnt find anything. So figured I'd ask. If you use Secluded Outpost to buy a personality, then equip a follower via its trait...Could you then react with Kyuden Hida's reaction? I am sort of confused.
IF you purchase a follower via its trait (whether you use Kyuden Hida's reaction or not)can you then pay any remaining cost with Imperial Artificer, to draw a card/discard a card?
If both answers are yes......is the following sequence of play the correct one?
Purchase personality. Personality comes in play
Pay for followers gold cost
Draw a card via Imperial Artificer
Discard a card via imperial artificer
draw a card via Kyuden Hida
A: You may not draw a card via Kyuden Hida's Reaction if you attach a follower via Secluded Outpost's trait, as it is not an action that attaches the follower but a trait. If you pay for the attachment with addition gold from the Imperial Artificer, then you may draw, then discard a card per the holding's text. Dan Jacobson, "Kyuden Hida and Secluded Outpost", 18 Sep 2009