Lesser Oni
Legend of the Five Rings card from Gold Edition, Forbidden Knowledge, Battle of Beiden Pass
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Follower
- Force
- 1
- Chi
- 0
- Honor Requirement
- 0
- Gold Cost
- 1
- Personal Honor
- -
- Keywords
- Nonhuman, Oni, Shadowlands
- Card Text
- You may include any number of copies of Lesser Oni in your deck.
After another player destroys this card with an action, or after battle resolution destroys this card while opposing another player's army: The other player gains 1 Honor. - Focus Value
- 0
- Legality
- Clan Wars (Imperial), Four Winds (Gold)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Gold Edition
- Rarity
- Common
- Artist
- Sean Murray
- Card Number
- 244
- Publisher
- Wizards of the Coast
Forbidden Knowledge
- Rarity
- Common
- Artist
- David Trowbridge
- Publisher
- Five Rings Publishing Group
Battle of Beiden Pass
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Artist
- David Trowbridge
- Publisher
- Five Rings Publishing Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: He does not have a "phantom bonus" from focusing. He has a real bonus. Not everyone knows how large it is, but it's really there.
So what happens if Toku starts focussing some Lesser Oni against someone with Lord Moon's Bones?
A: Each time he focuses, he gets +0 Chi from the focus and -1C from the Bones' effect. At some point, this will kill him. Jeff Alexander, "post for 29 January 2003", 30 Jan 2003 - Q: I'm playing the dreaded Lesser Oni deck. One of my personalities has a horde of Lesser Onis attached. I To Do What We Must my opponent's personality with it. Do I gain honor for ridding the world of the Oni?
A: Yes. TDWWM destroys every card in the unit directly. Jeff Alexander, "post for 17 September 2002", 19 Sep 2002 - Q: 2. Attaching an Item or Follower that gives "+X" to a stat is not an action giving a force bonus. The force bonus comes directly from the attached card, not the action. [Reversal, JA, 5 July 2001] (related: An action creating a +X token is not considered to be an action providing a bonus to a given stat. [VRD, 26 July 2001])
4. An attached card that grants you some bonus effect when destroyed (e.g., Lesser Oni) must be destroyed directly to collect the reward. Destroying it by destroying the Personality doesn't count.
5. An effect that destroys a Personality by lowering his or her Chi to zero does not directly cause the death of the Personality. [JA, 29/30 November 2000]
A: Let's say you have a Personality in play with 3 Chi. I play an Evil Portents. Then I play a second. Then I play a third. He dies. Clearly, it's the SECOND Evil Portents that killed him, since he'd still be alive if I hadn't played it. Right?
Wait now. Put a Naginata on him first. Then I play all three Portents, one at a time, followed by Ninja Thief-ing his Naginata away. He dies again. Now what killed him? Ninja Thief? Ninja Thief doesn't kill people, it moves Items. Your intuitive solution that the last action played before he died is the cause of his death gets shakier.
Hang on, it gets better! Imagine he has only 1C to start. This time you give him your Celestial Sword. You have only him and one other Clanmate in play, so his total Chi is 4. I -- no, wait, YOU, for some reason -- play three Portents on my turn. Then I Kolat Master his buddy. Again, he dies. You say it's my Kolat Master that killed him? How sure are you everyone everywhere will intuit that "obvious" determination?
It's tempting in many cases to slap down an overarching "If Action X is taken and Y happens, Y is a result of Action X." It seems more intuitive in straightforward situations, but in the long run it has at least as many problems, and quite possibly more. Never mind the fact that the larger L5R's customer base is, the less we have the luxury of relying on intuition. Jeff Alexander, "post for 24 July 2002", 25 Jul 2002