Matsu Turi

Legend of the Five Rings card from Pearl Edition, Pre-Imperial Edition, Time of the Void

Card Type

Personality

Force

4

Chi

3

Honor Requirement

0

Gold Cost

8

Personal Honor

2

Clan

Lion

Keywords

Lion Clan, Samurai

Card Text

Favor and Lobby actions cannot target Turi.

Legality

Clan Wars (Imperial), Hidden Emperor (Jade)

Deck

Dynasty

Notes

The pre-Imperial Edition's art was used for Matsu Yojo, and its trait became Matsu Gohei's.

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: I feel kinda silly asking these, it seems like it should be straightforward enough, I just want to make sure I understand this stuff 100% before I start running Gold tournaments locally.
  OK. First the rulebook quote:
  Gold Edition Rulebook, page 21: "The personalities count together against the per-deck card limit. If either Personality has multiple Experience levels, the "Soul of..." character counts only as the earlier Personality at the same level. "Soul of..." characters don't count as their named personalities for any game-play purposes except deck construction."
  OK. The deck construction part is pretty clear, I can run 2 Matsu Hataki and 1 Matsu Turi. They are all played by the MRP version, which right now is Matsu Hataki from GE.
  This is true in Open, Jade and Gold formats, correct?
  A: Only in Gold formats would Turi count as Hataki. In Open, they'd count as printed because both are legal cards. In Jade, you can't use Hataki. Jeff Alexander, "replies to 10-14 July 2001", 19 Jul 2001
• Q: Now the part that confuses me is where it says: "If either Personality has multiple Experience levels, the "Soul of..." character counts only as the earlier Personality at the same level."
  My take on this wording is that using Matsu Hataki as an example above, I can include in my deck:
  any combination (up to 3) of Non-Exp. Matsu Hataki and Non-Exp. Matsu Turi and either Matsu Hataki exp. or Matsu Turi exp.
  A: Correct. Jeff Alexander, "replies to 10-14 July 2001", 19 Jul 2001
• Q: The deck construction part is pretty clear, I can run 2 Matsu Hataki and 1 Matsu Turi.
  A: Right. Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 15 July 2001", 15 Jul 2001
• Q: Half yes, half no. PART of the story is driven by player input, but never has design be a part of player input. This isn't Pendragon. The Designer make their choices according to what they, as professionals, think is best for the game. The designers never have asked player input for MRPs or something. Be it Osugi, Shiba Halls, Hida Yakamo, Matsu Turi, or anything, a design decision has always been taken by the DESIGNER. That's his job.
  Actually, Dave did call for a vote on whether or not Merchant Caravan should be changed to cost 1G. But that was the only mechanics issue, I believe.
  A: There's an epilogue to this story. There was some indignation when Bandit Attack and Plague of Locusts were printed following this vote. Some players interpreted the "Should we change Merchant Caravan's cost?" vote as a "Should we ever do anything bad to Merchant Caravans at all?" vote. One in particular was quite peeved at the "sham" of being offered a vote when Dave knew all along that he was going to do *something* to try to counter MC's effectiveness. He told me personally he'd much rather have had Dave do what he wanted in the first place instead of leading players on and letting them think they had a say in the matter.
  I think there's a moral there. Jeff Alexander, "replies to the 7 June digest", 10 Jun 2001
• Q: Can I assign Matsu Turi to attack a province, resolve his battle first, play Hida Technique on him (and probably Charge, unless he's got a suitable weapon), and in each other battle, when he's returned to my fief after the previous battle, use his ability to bow him and assign him to the current battle?
  A: No. Hida Technique's effect only applies while the Personality is in an attacking army. Turi's not in one if he's in your fief. Jeff Alexander, "Rulings for 17 March 2001", 24 Mar 2001
• Q: The only problem I can see is that Hida Technique says "as if they were defending", whereas Matsu Turi says "if you are the Defender". Are these conditions equivalent?
  A: They're not, which is another problem with the combo. Jeff Alexander, "Rulings for 17 March 2001", 24 Mar 2001