My Father's Shrine
Legend of the Five Rings card from The Imperial Gift 2
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Holding
- Gold Cost
- 2
- Keywords
- Temple
- Card Text
- w: Produce 2 Gold.
Limited: Bow your target performing Personality to gain 1 Honor. - Legality
- Destroyer War (Celestial)
- Deck
- Dynasty
Printings
The Imperial Gift 2
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- "My every victory is in his name, and I hope only that my efforts find favor with his spirit."
- Artist
- Raymond Gaustadnes
- Card Number
- 10
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: If I use Distractions in Court to bow my only personality, I shouldn't be able to pay the cost for My Father's Shrine (bow a personality), correct? Thus Only Actions Speak does not stop honor gains, so I can continue to gain honor on my action phase.
A: Ah, I see. Correct. Zen Faulkes, "Only actions speak Vs hamstrung overpay", 18 Feb 2011 - Q: If I use Distractions in Court to bow my personality, but I have another unbowed personality, will My Father's Shrine require that I bow this other unbowed Personality? Or since my originally intended personality is now bowed, does My Father's Shrine fail to gain me honor?
A: Since this was triggered at the announcement phase, there's no way to know what was "intended." Since cost payment was not negated, delayed, or made impossible (http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Costs_and_restr ... d_payments), you can and must pay. Zen Faulkes, "Only actions speak Vs hamstrung overpay", 18 Feb 2011 - Q: Scenario 1: I have one courtier personality in play, unbowed. Scenario 2: I have two courtiers in play. Both unbowed.
If I announce I'm using My Father's Shrine to gain one honor, my opponent reacts with Only Actions Speak, I then react with Distractions in Court to their Only Actions Speak. I bow a courtier for the cost of Distractions in Court.
I'm assuming that for me to pay the cost of My Father's Shrine, I have to bow a personality, and if I have no personalities unbowed, I can't pay the cost. As long as I have one personality unbowed, I could still pay the cost since the targetting hasn't happened yet from My Father's Shrine (since Only Action's Speak and Distractions in Court occurred during announcement).
Can I still gain honor during my action phase? In scenario 1? In scenario 2?
A: While legal, reacting with Distractions in Court (reduced Honor losses) does nothing to Only Actions Speak (negates Honor gains, not create losses). So you won't be gaining honor in either case.
The rest of the reasoning with the cost payments all seems right, though. Zen Faulkes, "Only actions speak Vs hamstrung overpay", 17 Feb 2011 - Q: Is it possible to react with Deeds and Words when an opponent tries to rehonor a personality with My Father's Shrine?
A: No. Rehonoring and Deed and Words are both triggered before an honor gain, and triggered effects like rehonoring come before Reactions (http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Timing#Timing_sequence). Zen Faulkes, "Deeds and Words + Rehonoring", 6 Mar 2010