Ninja-to
Legend of the Five Rings card from Fire & Shadow
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Item
- Force
- +0
- Chi
- +2
- Gold Cost
- 1
- Keywords
- Weapon, Ninja
- Card Text
- Will only attach to a Ninja Personality.
After this card enters play: Lose 2 Honor. - Focus Value
- 3
- Legality
- Hidden Emperor (Jade)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Fire & Shadow
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "I swore to repay you for the death of my Master with the death of your own, but my gift is not finished, Ginawa. There is still one more death for you to see; one more innocent man, one more lord will die before the game is ended." - Ninja Shadow-Walker
- Artist
- Tim Gerstmar
- Publisher
- Wizards of the Coast
Rules Q&A
- Q: I am finding myself beset by these Underroos wearing, faceless,...sorry about that it was about to get unfriendly. So I decided to have a little fun at there expense. The difficulty is my card affects can not cause the Ninja to lose honor. I can redirect though. Since this is the case, I need to find out what is causing the loss of honor when/if I play Martyr, the personality/duel/Kolat action or the Martyr card. Right now I see it as the action taken that killed my peep that caused the honor loss. If this is the case, the next time one of my peeps is killed by Kolat Assassin I am going to have a little treat instore for the perpetrator. ;)
A: Sorry to have to tell you this, but Martyr is considered to be the card causing the honor loss, not the action/effect/act of god that triggered Martyr in the first place. As far as I can tell, there are very few ways to cause a Ninja player an honor loss (none, so far as I can tell). Best that you can do is Court Jester one of the losses that he creates for himself. How's that? Vaughn Derderian, "Rules for January 26th", 27 Jan 2001 - Q: This is a follow-up to this subject: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=94545&p=1251827
I'm actually surprised of your answer. It wasn't actually the rule of location that was preventing it from happening, in my opinion.
Our debate mostly resolved around the definition of "perform" made in the comprehensive rules.
In that chapter, two things are stated:
(Which Silent Riot is)
My point was to basically say: - You have to choose a Ninja to perform an action. As per the second quote, it would have to be a Personnality or a Follower.
His point was to say: -> U choose a holding to perform my action, therefore my action is not performed so I don't fall into any of the "perform" cases.
While Celestial is almost over and letting such an "oddity" continue for the couple of months left is ok in my opinion. But, since it was discuessed on the french forums, we believe there might something to cover here for Emperor Edition to avoid this kinds of things to happen in the future (with the new wording on cards, it might disappear by itself but I believe it might be good to put this under scrutiny to avoid bad things to happen).
A: Targeting in constraints only indicates performing if the targeted card is a Personality or Follower (and the ability is on a card printed prior to The Plague War).
If Silent Rot said, "Choose your performing unbowed Ninja" then you would have to choose a Personality or Follower, but it doesn't, so you don't.
As you point out, this situation can't occur (hopefully) in Emperor Edition, because of the introduction of explicit performing. Alex Jones, "Silent Rot and Red Crane Dojo", 22 Oct 2011 - Q: "An ability also has any keywords that are on its card. Example: An ability on a Ninja card is a Ninja ability.
EXCEPTION: Keywords that a card only has from one of its abilities are not given to other abilities on the card. Example: A Ninja ability on a card does not by itself give Ninja to any other abilities on that card."
I have a question about the exception...
Shosuro Takuma is a Ninja with an Open action...if the Open action a Ninja action even though it does not begin: "Ninja Open"?
A: Yes, Takuma's action is a Ninja action, because of the text you quoted above the exception.
The exception only applies to a very rare instance where a card will have two or more abilities, and one will have a keyword the other lacks. For example, Subtle Corruption from Glory of the Empire. Its first ability is "Limited:", but its second ability is "Fear Battle:". Therefore, its Limited action is NOT a "Fear" action. However, if "Fear" appeared on the keyword line, rather than butted up against just one of the abilities, then they would BOTH be "Fear" actions. Brook Cunningham, "Keywords from abilities", 26 Aug 2009