Parley

Legend of the Five Rings card from Stronger Than Steel

Card Type

Strategy

Gold Cost

0

Keywords

Political

Card Text

Battle: Choose your performing unbowed Personality and target an enemy Personality: Give the performer and target each a Force and Chi penalty equal to his own Personal Honor; this will not reduce either's Chi below 1.

Focus Value

1

Legality

Race for the Throne (Samurai)

Deck

Fate

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: I was playing a game today and a situation came up:
  I was at a battlefield controlling Utaku Yu-Pan with two penalties; -3f/-1c from Silent Movements and -1f/-1c from a Kyuichi token. The opposing player plays Parley on Yu-Pan, he argued that Yu-Pan would then die since the penalty would be -4f/-2c then the token from Kyuichi would kick in and finish her off. I argued that he needed to give the Kyuichi penalty after using Parley in order for her to die since Parley would 'see' the token and adjust the penalty to -1C instead of -2C if it was already on her.
  Which is correct? Does parley take into account the current chi of the personality from all tokens and modify its penalty accordingly? Or does Parley ignore the tokens and current effects and go purely by the personalities base stats, allowing the person to then die from effects already on her before Parley was announced?
  Parley Political Battle: Target one of your unbowed Personalities: Target an enemy Personality. Give each target a Force and Chi penalty equal to his own Personal Honor; this cannot reduce Chi below 1.
  A: Penalties are normally calculated in the order they were introduced to the card.
  So if a personality with 2PH and 3C gets a -1C token and then later someone plays Parley against him, Parley applies against his current 2C, and reduces it to 1C.
  If you want to piggy-back off of Parley to kill someone with Chi Penalties you'll need to deliver those penalties AFTER Parley, not before it.
  For instance, play Parley to reduce someone to 1C, then use Shosuro Kyuichi's Reaction after Parley to add a -1F/-1C Poison token and finish your victim off. Martin Lund, "Parley and other Chi Penalties", 20 Feb 2008
• Q: Parley Political Battle: Target one of your unbowed Personalities: Target an enemy Personality. Give each target a Force and Chi penalty equal to his own Personal Honor; this cannot reduce Chi below 1.
  Determination: Dark Virtue Reaction: Before you announce an action, target one of your Samurai: The action can not have its effects negated or have its targeting changed. After the action destroys any Personality, remove him from the game.
  In a battle there´s a personality opposed with more PH than Chi. (Is not really important in what army) I play Determination and Parley. The personality dies since Determination overrides "cannot" clause in Parley (the efect of the reduction cannot be negated) or just have its Chi reduced to 1 since Determination makes that the "cannot" clause cannot be negated (because it´s an effect of the action)
  Thanks
  A: Determination won't help you get around a card's own self-negation clauses.
  While it prevents the first effect from being Negated, it also prevents the Negation Effect from being Negated. The result is a wash.
  Much like taking:
  "I have some money," and turning it into, "I haven't got no money," conveys the same exact meaning, but makes you sound like an idiot. Martin Lund, "Parley and Determination", 13 Nov 2007