Restoring Order
Legend of the Five Rings card from Celestial Edition, Khan's Defiance, War of Honor, Samurai Edition Banzai, Glory of the Empire
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Keywords
- Political
- Card Text
- Battle: Choose your performing unbowed Magistrate and target an enemy Personality with Personal Honor lower than your Magistrate's Chi: Move the Personality home. Bow him if he moved. Destroy him if he is dishonorable.
- Focus Value
- 4
- Legality
- Age of Enlightenment (Lotus), Destroyer War (Celestial), Race for the Throne (Samurai)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Celestial Edition
- Rarity
- Common
- Flavor Text
- "Remind them of the Empress' law." - Shosuro Jimen
- Artist
- Kevin Wasden
- Card Number
- 269
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Khan's Defiance
- Rarity
- Common
- Flavor Text
- "Kill only the rioters!" the magistrate ordered. "Indiscriminate killing only harms our cause!"
- Artist
- Kevin Wasden
- Card Number
- 95
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
War of Honor
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- "Remind them of the Empress's law." - Shosuro Jimen
- Artist
- Kevin Wasden
- Card Number
- 110
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Samurai Edition Banzai
- Rarity
- Starter
- Flavor Text
- "Kill only the rioters!" the magistrate ordered. "Indiscriminate killing only harms our cause!"
- Artist
- Kevin Wasden
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Glory of the Empire
- Rarity
- Starter
- Flavor Text
- "Kill only the rioters!" the magistrate ordered. "Indiscriminate killing only harms our cause!"
- Artist
- Kevin Wasden
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rulings
- Erratum: Reads, "Restoring Order 0G 4FV Political Battle: Target your unbowed Magistrate Personality: Target an enemy Personality with Personal Honor lower than your Magistrate's Chi. Move the enemy Personality home. Bow him if he moved. Destroy him if he is dishonorable." [MRP, Celestial Edition, 29 June 2009] Comprehensive Rules, Celestial Edition, with specific card rulings, final version, February 2012, p. 150
Rules Q&A
- Q: if i use Gutobos open, and attack that province, if he dishonors gutobo, and then uses restoring order, am i correct in thinking that the moving home happens then destroys gutobo at home so he cannot use his delayed recon affect to come back?
A: Recon Open: Target a province. Before this turn ends, bring into play each dead Goblin Personality you own who was destroyed this turn during a Combat Segment whose battlefield was at that province, ignoring Gold Costs.
In this case, even if the Personality was at home (or any other location) when destroyed, they were still destroyed during a Combat Segment whose battlefield was at that province, and therefore Gutobo's recon will bring them back into play.
You may have been looking at an older version of the card with a more confusing wording; the above is from the CE Gutobo, but the Khan's Defiance Gutobo on L5Rsearch.com has a less precise wording. Jon Palmer, "Restoring Order / Gutobo", 19 Nov 2011 - Q: (I)f I play Restoring Order against a dishonored personality, and if he dies, (would) playing shame never dies would have its honor loss lowered (by Distractions in Court) as well(?)
A: Yes. Shame Never Dies is played after action resolution, which is still before the action ending. Zen Faulkes, "Distractions in Court vs. Rulebook Effect", 12 Feb 2011 - Q: I'm getting confused over with this card. Basically, if I play "The Height of Courage" in response to "Restoring Order" which targeted my dishonored personality, will the destruction be negated or it happens regardless? I did a search and found this but the link to the rules wiki leads to a deleted page. I see there's FAQ entry but these two seem to contradict each other so I'm not sure what to think of it. Please help.
Restoring Order Political Battle: Target your unbowed Magistrate Personality: Target an enemy Personality with Personal Honor lower than your Magistrate's Chi. Move the enemy Personality home. Bow him if he moved. Destroy him if he is dishonorable.
The Height of Courage Reaction: Before the resolution of another player's action: Choose one of your personalities. Negate his movement from the action's effects. Battle: Give your target Personality and each of his Followers +1F.
A: If your Personality is dishonorable when targeted by Restoring Order, he'll die regardless of whether he moves or whether the movement is negated.
The question in your first link that you felt contradicted this was only asking WHERE the Personality would die; that is, in what order the effects would resolve, not whether the destruction was dependent upon the movement. However, I see how you could've misread my answer, so I removed the part that was confusing. Brook Cunningham, "Restoring Order - Clarification", 16 Jan 2011 - Q: Sorry to ask another Shame Never Dies question but this one has my friend second guessing his own cards. Here is the situation.
I have a dishonored samurai. My friend plays Restoring Order. I pass my chance to play a reaction. My friend plays Shame Never Dies in reaction to my movement.
Shame Never Dies: Reaction: After the resolution of an action that moved home or destroyed a dishonorable Personality at a battlefield, target your Courtier, and bow him unless he is Scorpion Clan: The Personality's owner loses 3 Honor.
Restoring Order: Battle: Target your unbowed Magistrate Personality: Target an enemy Personality with Personal Honor lower than your Magistrate's Chi. Move the enemy Personality home. Bow him if he moved. Destroy him if he is dishonorable.
Now here come the questions. 1) When does he play the Shame Never Dies? Before Restoring Order resolves, after I move but before I die or after the entire action resolves? 2) If he plays it before I am destroyed can I then react to the honor lose from Shame Never Dies to Seppuku? Thus turning what would have been a 3 honor loss into a 1 honor loss and avoiding the honor loss from Restoring Order since im already dead when it try's to kill me?
The important part I think is his playing Shame Never Dies in reaction to my movement which happens before the destruction of Restoring Order. Regardless of who is right in this there is a second issue. Can my friend play Shame Never Dies in reaction to the destruction from Restoring Order? The action was played at the current battlefield but the destruction took place at my home.
A: Loïc has focused on what can't be done in this situation, I'll go through what does happen.
Player A has a dishonourable Samurai at a battlefield.
Player B plays Restoring Order. He targets his unbowed Magistrate and the dishonourable Samurai, in required targeting. In the action's resolution, the Samurai moves home, then because he moved, he bows and because he was dishonourable, he is destroyed.
After resolution, the timing trigger for Shame Never Dies occurs - "After the resolution of an action" - and the condition is also valid - "an action that moved home ... a dishonorable Personality at a battlefield." Player B plays Shame Never Dies, targeting (and maybe bowing) his Courtier. Player A loses 3 honour; he may not use the Seppuku Reaction, because Shame Never Dies does not target the moved or destroyed Personality. Furthermore, even if Shame Never Dies did target that Personality, taking the Reaction wouldn't help, since the Samurai is already dead, so the "If the seppuku destroyed him" clause would never trigger. Reaction: Any number of times per turn, before you lose Honor from an action that targeted or was performed by one of your Courtier or Samurai Personalities: He commits seppuku. If the seppuku destroyed him, reduce the Honor loss to one. Alex Jones, "Restoring Order + Shame Never Dies + Seppuku", 15 Dec 2009 - Q: if I play Restoring Order targeting a dishonored Goblin at a province targeted by Gutobo's Recon action, does he die and stay dead, since he gets sent home first, and is no longer at the battlefield when he dies?
A: No, he does not.
It's "destroyed during the Combat Segment at that province's battlefield" -- that is to say, the time of destruction matters. It's not "destroyed at that province's battlefield," which would indicate that the location mattered. Zen Faulkes, "Gutobo", 19 Aug 2009 - Q: I have a personalite dishonred in a battlefield and adeiko. The other player, play restoring tho order, where die my personalitie???? Because in restoring the order put, move, bow and destroy. The personalitie die in home no?
Mod Edit: Thread title.
A: Yes, your Personality would die at home.
http://rules.l5r.com/Effects#Order_of_effects: "Effects occur in the order they are written."
Also, please use complete card titles (including Experience levels) when asking questions. I assume you meant "Shosuro Adeiko", but that information wasn't neccessary to answer the question. Brook Cunningham, "Restoring Order + Adeiko", 11 Apr 2008 - Q: Hello,
I am curious about the sequence of interaction between Koin and Scouring/Restoring (and by extension, any cards which incorporate bowing as a card effect).
Does a Personality have to be Dishonored at the time they're targetted with these actions to be subject to the destruction/unable to straighten clauses of these two actions? Alternately, are they subject to the additional repercussions if they become dishonored in the course of the action (in Koin's case, because their owner opted to Dishonor them as a result of Koin's Reaction)?
A: Conditional effects are checked at the time the effect resolves. Chris Fuchs, "Doji Koin & Scouring the Village/Restoring Order", 28 Sep 2007 - Q: Can you use Restoring Order on someone with equal or higher PH than the Magistrate's Chi since the only targetting requirement is one of your unbowed Magistrates?
A: No.
http://rules.l5r.com/Abilities_and_acti ... _targeting: "An action’s required targets consist of anything that is targeted by the player taking the action in the action's constraints or effects, unless the targeting is shown to be optional by terms such as 'may target,' or 'lose 2 Honor or target a Personality you control.'" (Emphasis added.) Zen Faulkes, "Restoring Order, Required Target?", 14 Aug 2007