Rise from the Ashes
Legend of the Five Rings card from The Dark Journey Home
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Spell
- Gold Cost
- 3
- Keywords
- Political
- Card Text
- Limited: Bow this Shugenja: Until your next Events Phase begins, no player will gain Honor, may declare an attack, or may target another player's card with actions. Any Honor gains you have had this turn are retroactively negated (this is not considered an Honor loss). Remove this card from the game.
- Focus Value
- 4
- Legality
- Hidden Emperor (Jade)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
The Dark Journey Home
- Rarity
- Uncommon
- Flavor Text
- "Through fire came death, and through fire comes rebirth." - Isawa Hochiu
- Artist
- Tommy Pons
- Publisher
- Wizards of the Coast
Rulings
- Is Political. [Rulebook, DW, email, 2/4/2000] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 65
- Does not stop effects targeting a: Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 65
- Stronghold (e.g., Kolat Servant) [ZF, 28 April 2000] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 65
- Deck (e.g., Hate's Heart). [ZF, May 2000] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 65
- Province (e.g., Soshi Jomyako). [ZF, 20 June 2000] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 65
- Discard pile. [JA, 28 March 2001] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 65
- Player (e.g., Yogo Asami) [ZF, 10 August 2001] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 65
- Does not stop players from taking actions on opponent's cards that are self-referential; e.g., destroying Den of Spies or paying a Ninja Kidnapper. [ZF, May 2000] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 65
- Erratum: is removed from the game when cast, not discarded from play. Text Change & Errata List, February 15, 2000, p. 8
Rules Q&A
- Q: Hey folks,
Another example of poor template writing.
Kan'Chek says
" Kan'chek may cast Kihos in any discard pile as if they were in your hand. Kan'chek may cast Spells in any discard pile as if they were attached to him, except those whose costs would remove the Spell from play. Remove any card that he casts these ways from the game, after it resolves."
The phrase "remove from play" used to be the same as "remove from the game." Examples of spells/kiho's that do this after being used include "Sezaru's Gift" or Rise from the Ashes.
A: "Discard from play" used to mean "remove from the game". It was so confusing and unintuitive that we stopped using it four years ago. The last cards on which that phrase appears were printed in Spirit Wars. Notice that Sezaru's Gift has the actual phrase "remove this card from the game", as does the Diamond MRP of Bronze Lantern. Martin Lund, "Rules for 18 January 2005", 21 Jan 2005 - Q: Question is : What does "[the spells] whose cost would remove the spell from play." mean? Does it only apply to spells like Rise from the Ashes which have a 3remove from play" wording, or do we strictly follow English and apply this to any spell that is destroyed/discarded/ends not in play when cast?
A: It means spells that have a cost that includes phrasing that implies you take the spell from being in-play to some out-of-play area like "removed from the game," in the Discard Pile, in a Deck, etc. can't be used via Kan'chek's special effect.
You're looking mainly for costs that include: "Destroy this spell," "Discard this spell," "put this spell back into your deck," or "Remove this spell from the game," etc. Martin Lund, "Rules for 19 December 2004", 25 Dec 2004 - Q: Important point: [Rise From the Ashes] also stopped honor gains, too. By buying turns against both dominant victory conditions, it made alternate victory conditions (or alternate strategies for achieving military or honor wins) more viable. Something many players had advocated, I might add.
Ayuh, no arguments there. For whatever reason, though, it was never played much as meta against honor decks. (That I experienced, anyway.) In any case, the point I was making was that it was fine by itself. It became "broken" in combination with later cards. That one card became such a point of contention in the community that we were having magic bullets thrown at it (Imperial Edicts, for instance), redefining the rules of what's political and what's not,
A: The definition of "Political" did not change. What happened is that someone noticed the very tricky fact that Rise From the Ashes met the definition. Jeff Alexander, "post for 16 July 2002", 16 Jul 2002 - Q: If I am playing with Seppun Sensei and I play Rise from the Ashes after winning some honor, does Rise negate that honor gain?
A: Seppun Sensei will prevent Rise From the Ashes from negating your Honor gains from earlier in the turn, but it will not prevent the lingering effect of preventing players from gaining Honor for the rest of the turn, as those changes are automatic. Seppun Sensei only applies to voluntary changes. Jeff Alexander, "post for 15 March 2002", 16 Mar 2002 - Q: Greetings,
Fast question.
Player A is at 5 honor and has the Imperial Favor.
Player B is active, goes to 6 honor, cracks Rise From the Ashes, and then Lobbies for the Favor.
Can Player A keep the favor by bowing personalities, or is the "temporary honor gain" stopped by the Rise?
A: Lobbying efforts aren't true changes to Family Honor. They can't be redirected or prevented by things like RftA. Jeff Alexander, "Rulings for late February 2001", 10 Mar 2001 - Q: If you are playing Jade Extended is Rise from the Ashes a political Action? When you read the card in Oracle it says political
A: Yes. That was a contemporary ruling/clarification. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 17 Oct 2026 - Q: I’ll bribe the TO with a crisp 5 dollar bill if that’s what it takes to get the dog to bite Im sorry, i totally thought rise from the ashes was modern legal
A: Rise from the Ashes is illegal in most states, let alone tournament formats. 😉 Brook Cunningham, "Oracle of the Void #l5r", 21 May 2023