Secluded Waystation
Legend of the Five Rings card from Samurai Edition, Lotus Edition, Promotional–Diamond, Training Grounds 2, Drums of War, Glory of the Empire, Promotional–Samurai
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Holding
- Gold Cost
- 2
- Gold Production
- 2*
- Card Text
- After the first time each turn this Holding produces Gold, put a Wealth token on it.
w: Produce 2 Gold, plus 1 Gold for each Wealth token on this Holding. - Legality
- Age of Enlightenment (Lotus), Race for the Throne (Samurai), Rain of Blood (Diamond)
- Deck
- Dynasty
Printings
Samurai Edition
- Rarity
- Common
- Flavor Text
- Even in the most remote areas, magistrates work to ensure that the Emperor's laws are obeyed.
- Artist
- Brad Williams
- Card Number
- 41
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Lotus Edition
- Rarity
- Common
- Flavor Text
- "If you pursue a secret, there is a Bayushi who knows it. If you desire an item, there is a Yasuki who can find it. All these things - for a price." - Daidoji Uji
- Artist
- Brad Williams
- Card Number
- 40
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Promotional–Diamond
- Rarity
- Promo
- Flavor Text
- "Surely, Hida-sama, not even you have seen weapons like these."
- Artist
- Brad Williams
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Training Grounds 2
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- "If you pursue a secret, there is a Bayushi who knows it. If you desire an item, there is a Yasuki who can find it. All these things - for a price." - Daidoji Uji
- Artist
- Brad Williams
- Card Number
- Dragon 29, Dragon 43
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Drums of War
- Rarity
- Starter
- Flavor Text
- "If you pursue a secret, there is a Bayushi who knows it. If you desire an item, there is a Yasuki who can find it. All these things - for a price." - Daidoji Uji
- Artist
- Brad Williams
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Glory of the Empire
- Rarity
- Starter
- Flavor Text
- Even in the most remote areas, magistrates work to ensure that the Emperor's laws are obeyed.
- Artist
- Brad Williams
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Promotional–Samurai
- Rarity
- Promo
- Flavor Text
- Even in the most remote areas, magistrates work to ensure that the Emperor's laws are obeyed.
- Artist
- Brad Williams
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rulings
- Erratum: Reads, “Secluded Waystation After this card produces Gold, once per turn: Put a Wealth token on it. Bow this card: Produce 2 Gold, plus 1 Gold for each Wealth token on this card.” [MRP, Samurai Edition, 25 July 2007] Comprehensive Rules, Samurai Edition, with specific card rulings, final version, May 2009, p. 154
Rules Q&A
- Q: Under the new Ivory gold pooling rules, how does Secluded Waystation (link to Ivory text) know whether it has produced gold to recruit a personality or not? If I bow it to produce gold in my dynasty phase along with other holdings and buy a combination of holdings and people, can I just assume that its interrupt will be usable on any one personality I choose? This also applies to Imperial Artificer, Vast Paddy Fields, etc.
As an additional bonus question, with a card such as Vast Paddy Fields, Imperial Artificer, or really any holding (although most don't care about it), how many different cards can a given gold production be considered to "pay for?" If I have a Vast Paddy Fields and a 444 in play and I bow them both to produce 6 total gold, and use that to buy 3 two gold cost farm holdings, how many provinces can I refill face-up? I can see arguments for it to be 1, 2, or 3.
Thanks
Edit: After rereading the actual Ivory text for Vast Paddy Fields for Ivory and not the current EE Oracle text, I think it's clear that Vast Paddy Fields can only refill one province because you have to bow it WHILE you're paying for a holding to get the benefit. Question still stands about other cards with the "pay for" wording though.
A: I see you meant Secluded Outpost. For that...
Referenced actions in an Interrupt refer to the interrupted action, therefore the bowing of the Outpost must have been to pay for the referenced Recruit in order to take the Interrupt action in Good Faith.
As for the other Holdings you asked, expect their Oracle wording to resemble Vast Paddy Fields come Ivory. Brook Cunningham, "Secluded Waystation/etc. and "paying for" a card", 1 Jan 2014 - Q: Base
"Base" refers to a stat or keyword that exists on a card or other entity as printed (following the most recent printing) or initially created, without modifications from effects.
A card’s base value can not be changed.
A: Two gold in both cases. Chris Fuchs, "Wako Force Bonus with Secluded Waystation/Forest Killer", 18 Sep 2007 - Q: I'm like 90% certain that's how it would work. If you played all Wealth tokens as +1 GP Wealth tokens, cards like The Mikado, Secluded Waystation, Forest Killer Cavern would always count double. Considering that would break the intent of this:
A: Hm. Pre-Coils of Madness, the gold production bonus from Wealth tokens was granted by the card that creates the Wealth token. As of CoM, effects that create Wealth tokens all create +1GP Wealth tokens.
So there's a disconnect between them.
Like, Nogoten's bow gives out -2C poison tokens, unlike the frequent -1/-1 ones from Emperor. Game's just like that.
Tbf, the only card that would get complicated if you changed all the pre-CoM cards to work like the CoM+ cards is Sennin.
Bad example, I misremembeed the card (edited now); but you get my point.
As in, Secluded Waystation probably should just be
After the first time each turn this Holding produces Gold, put a +1GP Wealth token on it. (bow) Produce 2 Gold. Cornered Market:
Political Limited: Bow your target performing Courtier to give a target Holding a +1 GP Wealth token.
A fair point, but it's a fine line between fixing those or just leaving the odd interaction so they work as printed and you don't have to consult the Oracle about them? :/ Alex Jones and Brook Cunningham, "Oracle of the Void #rules", 24 Apr 2023