Shiba

Legend of the Five Rings card from Dawn of the Empire

Card Type

Personality

Force

10

Chi

10

Honor Requirement

6

Gold Cost

0

Personal Honor

5

Clan

Phoenix

Keywords

Double Chi, Loyal, Unique, Kami, Phoenix Clan, Samurai

Card Text

Shiba has the additional cost, "Bow three of your Phoenix Clan Shugenja" to enter play.
You may play attachment cards from your discard pile as if they were in your hand.
Limited: Target your honorably dead Personality: Bring him into play, ignoring costs and restrictions.

Deck

Dynasty

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: I looked at viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99986 but couldn't really apply it to my specific case.
  My opponent has Ryoshun's Guidance, Shiba and TWO 0-cost followers in play. I play Claw and Shell, first and foremost to kill Shiba (and if possible one of the followers).
  Is he able to use Ryoshun's to save Shiba or not?
  What I'm thinking -> since C&S targeting isn't mandatory, it will happen in the action's resolution (does this have relevance to the case?). So I pick Shiba as the first target. My opponent reacts with Guidance, changing the target to one of the followers. I then pick Shiba as the second target.
  Also, and as a sanity check, if my opponent only had Guidance, Shiba and a single 0-cost follower in play he could never save Shiba, right? I choose to target both, so the Guidance's redirection from Shiba has no remaining legal targets...
  A: Your targeting is simultaneous, not sequential. At the targeting step, you would choose Shiba and one follower. Your opponent could then redirect from Shiba to the other follower. While there's a separate reaction window to each target, they're still chosen at the same time.
  If it's just Shiba and one follower, Ryoshun's will not save them. Jon Palmer, "Claw and Shell vs. Ryoshun's Guidance", 31 Jul 2013
• Q: (F)light of doves is under the once per turn rule due to being printed in CE.
  A: Not "due to being printed in Celestial Edition." Even cards that were printed long before the rule limiting actions to once per turn are subject to it under the Legacy rules.
  Exceptions are Winds and Formations, but those exception are clearly spelled out in the Legacy rules. Zen Faulkes, "Shiba and spell use", 1 Aug 2009
• Q: My friend much prefers an "open legality" game or a legacy game. He plays phoenix and loves his kami shiba.
  He plays shiba, who says you can play spells from your discard pile as they are in your hand.
  He has a kabuki theatre troop in play (Bow to produce 2 gold. Limited: Bow this card to produce 1 honor)
  He attaches a spell (i can not remember the name of the spell currently) that has the ability: Destroy this spell to increase the production of honor on one of your holdings by 1.
  His stronghold says spells cost 2 less gold. The spell costs 2 gold to start with.
  If he has shiba in play with the kabuki theatre troop and that spell either attached or in his discard pile, can he chain a combo to use that spell as many times as he wishes?
  He is under the impression (even after being told by several people that AEG would not allow something as absurd as this) that his chain would work. I just want clarification i can show him so he can stop claiming that according to the Samurai rulebook he can do that.
  [Mod edit: Thread title, typos. -ZF]
  A: There isn't enough information to provide an answer. Please provide exact card titles so we can check the text, when the card was printed, and so on -- all of those considerations factor into making Legacy rulings.
  I will note, however, that the rule that you can only use an ability once per turn applies to Legacy format (http://rules.l5r.com/Legacy_Format_Chan ... t_Rulebook). Quite often, making an indefinite amount of something is possible in L5R if you have an indefinite amount of time. Zen Faulkes, "Shiba and spell use", 1 Aug 2009
• Q: True, I already played Shiba with the change in place.
  A: Kiyoteru speaks truth. I'm an advocate for broad consistency, but in one's own micorcosm, you can do whatever you all find the most fun. Brook Cunningham, "Oracle of the Void #rules", 12 Apr 2021