Shosuro Jimen
Legend of the Five Rings card from Test of the Emerald and Jade Championships
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Personality
- Force
- 2
- Chi
- 4
- Honor Requirement
- -
- Gold Cost
- 8
- Personal Honor
- 2
- Clan
- Scorpion
- Keywords
- Duelist, Unique, Courtier, Emerald Champion, Experienced, Imperial, Magistrate, Poison Master, Scorpion Clan
- Card Text
- Political Battle: Target an enemy Personality: Dishonor him. Negate all rehonoring until this battle ends.
- Legality
- Race for the Throne (Samurai)
- Deck
- Dynasty
- Story
- 2007 World Champion - Eugene Earnshaw-Whyte
Printings
Test of the Emerald and Jade Championships
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- "A new era begins. My era."
- Artist
- Steve Argyle
- Card Number
- 26
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: To clarify for my understanding, in this topic, MacBeth states:
"Yes. But the trigger for his Reaction will be the ending of his or Kaukatsu's battle, not the first battle."
A: Well, upon closer inspection, I messed that question up on my first try. Nobody's perfect; see above.
But I believe I can answer your questions without directly taking the previous one into account... Brook Cunningham, "Shosuro Jimen(non exp) trigger to opposed", 6 Mar 2009 - Q: 1) Does this mean that units assigned to a battlefield (with an opposing army) aren't considered to be opposing that army until the battle at that province is resolved?
A: No. As soon as the units are at a battlefield, this definition applies.
Your second question was "if Yes" to the first, so I hope this clears up both. Brook Cunningham, "Shosuro Jimen(non exp) trigger to opposed", 6 Mar 2009 - Q: Hi,
Shosuro Jimen (Exp) Scorpion Clan • Poison Master • Courtier • Emerald Champion • Imperial • Magistrate • Duelist • Experienced • Unique Political Battle : Dishonor a target enemy Personality. Negate all rehonoring until this battle ends.
Does Shosuro Jimen (Experienced) negate Seppuku or the effect of Seppuku being restored to honorable status only during in a battle?
Thanks!
A: Seppuku: An act of ritual suicide. If an effect directs a Personality to commit seppuku, apply the following effects: “Rehonor the Personality, then destroy him; these effects can not be negated.”
The effects "rehonour" and "destroy" are separate, so the destruction of the personality is not dependent on any rehonouring. However, note the emphasised text: Jimen would negate the rehonouring from seppuku, but seppuku negates that negation, so the Personality dies honoured. If Determination were used with Jimen's ability, Determination would negate the negation of the negation, and the Personality would die dishonoured. Alex Jones, "Shosuro Jimen (Experienced) and Seppuku", 27 Sep 2008 - Q: Shosuro Jimen (exp.): Does his ability prevent all rehonoring, even from battle resolution?
A: http://rules.l5r.com/Battles#Choose_Battlefield: "'During a battle' includes both the Combat and Resolution Segments" Yes. Zen Faulkes, "Experienced Shosuro Jimen", 28 Dec 2007