Shosuro Ohba
Legend of the Five Rings card from Path of the Destroyer
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Personality
- Force
- 2
- Chi
- 3
- Honor Requirement
- -
- Gold Cost
- 5
- Personal Honor
- 0
- Clan
- Ninja, Scorpion
- Keywords
- Ninja, Scorpion Clan
- Card Text
- Ohba has +1F for each Poison token in the current enemy army.
- Legality
- Destroyer War (Celestial)
- Deck
- Dynasty
Printings
Path of the Destroyer
- Rarity
- Uncommon
- Flavor Text
- "We kill the boy, and we kill the man, no matter who they once were, no matter what their crimes are. We follow orders, Sogetsu, neh?"
- Artist
- Erich Schreiner
- Card Number
- 62
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: Yes and yes.
Per Setting stats to a value, when Ohba's Force is set to 0, he is given "the smallest possible appropriate penalty such that it reaches that value". In your example, Ohba has a base Force of 2 and there are 3 Poison tokens in the current enemy army so his current Force is 5 and the appropriate penalty to set it to 0 is -5F. To set a stat to zero does not mean that its value will remain zero until the turn ends, whatever new bonuses are given; it just means that the stat's value falls to zero due to an appropriate penalty.
If there is a new Poison token in the current enemy army, his trait increases his Force. Per Calculating stats, its value becomes : 2 (base Force) + 4 (trait) - 5 (penalty) = 1. The Force bonus from Crushing Strength would apply too: 2 (base Force) + 3 (trait) - 5 (penalty) + 3 (Crushing Strength) = 3.
A: I'd also like to point out that there is a FAQ entry about just this point: http://rules.l5r.com/CE_FAQ#When_stats_ ... applied.3F
Because I never tire of saying: Zen Faulkes, "Shosuro Ohba and effects", 16 Jun 2010 - Q: Shosuro Ohba: Scorpion Clan Ninja: Ohba has +1F for each Poison token in the current enemy army.
If someone has 3 poison tokens on him and he is facing ohba in battle does ohba lose his +3f bonus for the poison tokens and his printed force if another effect sets Ohba'ss force to 0? or is it just Ohba's printed force value that gets put to 0 leaving him with just his +3f poison token bonus?
A: When an action sets someone's force to a value, all bonuses and penalties are included in that calculation, including bonuses and penalties from traits, tokens and actions.
Shosuro Ohba's Force would be reduced to 0. Dan Jacobson, "Shosuro Ohba and effects", 16 Jun 2010