Superior Strategist
Legend of the Five Rings card from Samurai Edition, Crimson and Jade, Diamond Edition, Gold Edition, Lotus Edition, Training Grounds, Three Dynasties
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Keywords
- Tactical
- Card Text
- Battle: Choose your performing Tactician: Search your Fate deck for a Battle Strategy. You may take an additional Battle action to use one of its Battle abilities; if you do not, discard it.
- Focus Value
- 3
- Legality
- Age of Enlightenment (Lotus), Clan Wars (Imperial), Four Winds (Gold), Race for the Throne (Samurai), Rain of Blood (Diamond), Three Dynasties
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Samurai Edition
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- No enemy was ever overcome by repeating the same strategy.
- Artist
- Ellym Sirac
- Card Number
- 291
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Crimson and Jade
- Rarity
- Rare
- Artist
- Bob Hobbs
- Publisher
- Five Rings Publishing Group
Diamond Edition
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "You do not play Go?" the general asked with a mocking laugh.
- Artist
- Ellym Sirac
- Card Number
- 308
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Gold Edition
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "Losing to a master is nothing to be ashamed of, unless you learn nothing from the experience" - Master Suana
- Artist
- Ellym Sirac
- Card Number
- 418
- Publisher
- Wizards of the Coast
Lotus Edition
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "No enemy was ever overcome by repeating the same strategy. Innovation creates victory." - Akodo's Leadership
- Artist
- Ellym Sirac
- Card Number
- 304
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Training Grounds
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Artist
- Ellym Sirac
- Card Number
- Lion 46, Lion 47
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Three Dynasties
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- "The chief virtue of the Lion is their unwillingness to learn from their mistakes." - Shinjo Inejiro
- Artist
- Bob Hobbs
- Card Number
- 455
- Publisher
- Onyx Lives
- Publisherurl
- https://sites.google.com/view/the-onyx-lives-project/home
Rulings
- Erratum: Reads, "Superior Strategist 0G 3FV Tactical Battle: Target a Tactician you control: Search your Fate deck for an Action card with a Battle or Open action or for a Formation card. If you find a card, take a Battle or Open action to play it." [MRP, Lotus Edition, 31 October 2005] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 35
- May be used to fetch and play a terrain-destroying card against Deadly Ground/Night Battle, since the playing of the retrieved card is part of Superior Strategist's effect. [DW, l5rinfo, 5/24/97] Accumulated Rulings, February 8, 2000, p. 57
- For the same reason, you may not use a separate Battle or Open action to put that card into play (example: the Oracle of Earth with a terrain). Accumulated Rulings, February 8, 2000, p. 57
- Q: My opponent has played a Deadly Ground against me, so now I can only take an action which would destroy it. Superior Strategist doesn't destroy anything, but it lets me get a card from my Fate deck and play it immediately. Can I use it to fetch and play a terraindestroying card? A: Yes. Playing the card you pull is part of Superior Strategist's effect. It's all one action and it destroys Deadly Ground, so it's OK. (And since it's all one action, you can't use another Battle or Open action, like the Oracle of Earth, to put it into play.) Legend of the Five Rings FAQ, Version 3.6.2, May 1998, p. 9
- Erratum: Reads, "Superior Strategist 0G 3FV Tactical Battle: Target one of your Tacticians: Search your Fate deck for an Action card with a Battle ability. You may take an additional Battle action to use one of its Battle abilities; if you do not, discard it." [MRP, Samurai Edition, 25 July 2007] Comprehensive Rules, Samurai Edition, with specific card rulings, final version, May 2009, p. 159
Rules Q&A
- Q: 6 - How does Seek the Path work with cards like Superior Strategist, Refuge of the Three Sisters... ?
A: Jeff answered a question about this a while back. I'm surprised Seek the Path doesn't have an entry in the Accumulated Rulings because of it.
Anyway, here was what Jeff has to say:
'"Target one of your unbowed Shugenja or Monks before a player searches his or her Fate deck for a card to force that player to draw the top card of his or her Fate deck instead."
He draws his top card instead of searching his entire deck and taking a card of his choice. Only the search-and-take effect is altered -- if whatever is making him search also does other things, those still happen. Martin Lund, "Rules for 8 June 2004", 10 Jun 2004 - Q: Okay, I know that playing a Formation is considered to be a battle action, but Sup Strat doesn't care about that, it says to search for an action card with a Battle or Open Action. And Archer squad does not have either an open nor a battle action upon it. (it just gives Battle Actions to other cards)
So the question is, can a person use Superior Strategist to grab and play Archer Squad? And if so, why?
A: You can't use Superior Strategist to grab and play Archer Squad.
Archer squad has no Actions on its card to meet Superior Strategist's requirement of "a card with a Battle or Open action." It only has a Trait that gives other cards an Action, just like Yogo Towers has no Action but a Trait that gives other cards an Action. Martin Lund, "Rules for 7 June 2004", 10 Jun 2004 - Q: 2 - If I have a Clan Champion in the battle and my opponent plays Superior Strategist, can I Faith in My Clan the subsequent action or does it have to hit the Superior Strategist?
A: You can cancel the subsequent action. Superior Strategist instructs the player using it to gain an additional action to play the retrieved Battle or Open Action. You can React to such a play like any other play. Martin Lund, "Rules for 1 May 2004", 4 Jun 2004 - Q: Do tactical actions that don't specify a "performing tactician" require you to have a tactician in the battle to perform the action? For example, can you just play superior strategist without any tactician at all? I was always under the impression that tactical actions required tacticians to perform them, but after looking in the rulebook it's not quite so clear to me.
A: Tactical Actions require a Tactician to perform. See also the Diamond Edition Rulebook Glossary, page 105,
line 1. Martin Lund, "Rules for 20 May 2004", 24 May 2004 - Q: Looking at the wording of Rage and Superior Strategist can either card be used to fetch and play terrains or formations?
A: Yes. Both card types play as Battle Actions, just special kinds of Battle Actions (they stay in play, get destroyed, and other fun and weird stuff). Martin Lund, "Rules for 21 April 2004", 23 Apr 2004 - Q: Is Superior Strategist a focus value of 3 now?
A: Yes (Rules Archive). Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 19 November 2003, Part 2", 20 Nov 2003 - Q: If I have somebody in the battle use Superior Strategist to get a terrain, can I use Yobi's ability to draw a card[?]
A: No, because it is not played "from your hand" (Akodo Yobi card text). Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 17 October 2003, Part 3", 17 Oct 2003 - Q: For instance, if I have Daidoji Uji who is a tactician as my only personality and Sotrms of War is affecting the battle, can I
1) Superior Strategist for a Twisted Forest (The Sup Strat targets Uji, the Twisted Forest does not)
A: Neither. You announce the Superior Strategist, then you have to bow a personality or follower, then you start announcing targets and such.
Also note, you would have to bow another personality or follower to play whatever action you're going to get with Superior Strategist. Vaughn Derderian, "Rules for June 11th - Part Two!", 12 Jun 2003 - Q: 2) Superior Strategist for an Iaijutsu Duel (Both the Sup Strat and Iaijutsu Duel target Uji)
A: Again, no. Drop a Spearmen on that Uji or something. Vaughn Derderian, "Rules for June 11th - Part Two!", 12 Jun 2003 - Q: I tried searching for the answer, but got too many results back and I didn't find the answer to my question. This is probably a very basic question, but I need to know before I play it wrong.
Can you use SS to get a terrain and play it? Are terrains considered battle actions?
A: Sure. They say "Battle", don't they? Jeff Alexander, "post for 22 May 2003", 23 May 2003 - Q: I'm assuming this is just an extension of the Superior Strategist/Deadly Ground ruling, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to check in on this... Can you use a Superior Strategist on a bowed personality in order to get a card that would immediately straighten them?
A: No, for much the same reason. Jeff Alexander, "post for 5 May 2003", 6 May 2003 - Q: If I use a Superior Strategist to get a battle action card and immediately play it, can my opponent use an Otomo Sensei to make me discard it?
A: Yes. Jeff Alexander, "post for 7 April 2003", 9 Apr 2003 - Q: I think my favorite suggestion so far has been a general ruling that no given search effect can be performed by a player again once it yeilds no results. This would cover G&F, Taeruko, the occasional Superior Strategist, and a few other things.
A: I don't favor that solution. There are ways to get a Fortification back into your deck after using Taeruko and not finding any. Jeff Alexander, "post for 11 December 2002", 12 Dec 2002 - Q: Could you use Superior Strategist to fetch and play Traveling Ronin?
A: No. [card text] Unlike Faith In My Clan, Superior Strategist says "Action Card", so only a card possessing an appropriate Battle or Open action and a red border matching the picture on page 13 or 18 of the rulebook can be retrieved. Jeff Alexander, "post for 26 November 2002", 27 Nov 2002 - Q: With Superior Strategist, and one tactician in play, can I get a battle action that is considered the tactician's use of his/her ability, and play it?
A: Not with the same Personality. It wouldn't be legal, being two actions that count as a use of Tactician from the same Personality in one battle. Jeff Alexander, "post for 25 November 2002", 26 Nov 2002 - Q: * Is a player supposed to know exactly the contents of his deck for deciding the legality of actions? I mean, I usually don't have a deck list with me, and absolutely never know the exact deck list by heart; would my "Superior Strategist" play, above, have been considered illegal?
A: Superior Strategist says "get a card and play it". It doesn't force you to name the card beforehand. If the card you want to play isn't there, you have to get another legal Action card and play it instead. Only if there are no legal cards left can you skip that part of SS's effect. Jeff Alexander, "post for 23 September 2002", 25 Sep 2002 - Q: If I play Frenzy on an opposing unit, and the other player counters it by slapping down Superior Strategist, exactly what has he cancelled, and what are the costs that remain paid?
A: You still lose the card and you still have to pay its 0 gold cost, but nothing else happens. Jeff Alexander, "post for 11-12 September 2002", 13 Sep 2002 - Q: actions like Mushin and Superior Strategist + other actions count as separate actions. So it means each one adds up to the limit, right?
A: Correct.
[Re: Flattery] Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 10 July 2002", 11 Jul 2002 - Q: Jeff,
I'm a little confused by a couple of rulings that would seem to pertain to the Sup Strategist vs. Deadly Ground situation. In your post for 6/11, you state in re to using SS under DG's restrictions-
(You can't use SS) "because the only direct effect of Superior Strategist is "get an Open or Battle Action card from your Fate deck and play the card", and that doesn't meet Deadly Ground's restrictions on what's legal. The Smart Cards ruling does not apply because it is not public, guaranteed knowledge that a card like Superior Tactics is going to be retrieved."
But in the next entry, re Hataki exp., you state-
"Knowing that some or all of an action's parts will fail does not make using that action illegal."
This would seem to allow a player to play ANY action under Deadly Ground, even though I know it's not going to destroy the terrain.
A: There is a difference between failing (i.e., producing no noticable effect) and being outright prohibited.
Imagine two action cards that say "Limited: Destroy all shugenja." and "Limited: Destroy one shugenja." I can play the first when there are no shugenja in play -- the knowledge that nothing will be destroyed does not make it illegal. But I CAN'T play the second -- I need to pick one shugenja as a target, and that's not possible. Jeff Alexander, "post for 17 June 2002", 18 Jun 2002 - Q: Hi Jeff,
I was looking at your post for Friday and I'm a little confused over your ruling on Hunting Tiger & Superior Strategist. Hunting Tiger reads: During any battle while Hunting Tiger is present and unbowed, other players must discard a card from their hand as an additional cost to perform a Battle or Open action. Superior Strategist reads: Battle: Target one of your Personalities with the Tactician trait in this battle who has not used the trait during this battle. Get an Open or Battle Action card from your Fate deck and play the card. This is considered the target's use of the Tactician trait for this battle. Shuffle the deck. In the example presented the player played Superior Strategist to get a Test of Might and you indicated that he only needed to discard one card. The way I read the situation is as follows: Superior Strategist is a battle action meaning that to play it while facing the Hunting Tiger the player must discard a card. Test of Might is also a battle action and I would think that the player would need to discard a second card to play the Test of Might given that Superior Strategist doesn't specifically state that you ignore the costs associated with the action that you fetch (and the Tiger is adding an additional COST to all Battle and Open actions for the battle that it's in).
A: Playing the retrieved card is not a new and separate action, so it doesn't pick up the extra cost. Jeff Alexander, "post for 10 June 2002", 11 Jun 2002 - Q: So we're having a debate about Superior Strategist and Hunting Tiger. If I'm in battle against the Hunting Tiger and use Superior Strategist to get, say Test of Might. Do I have to discard one or two cards?
One.
How about this situation: if someone has 3 Ashigaru Spearman in one unit, and they want to combine to shoot the Hunting Tiger, does the controller have to discard one or three cards?
A: It's one action. It will cost one card. Jeff Alexander, "post for 10 June 2002", 11 Jun 2002 - Q: So we're having a debate about Superior Strategist and Hunting Tiger. If I'm in battle against the Hunting Tiger and use Superior Strategist to get, say Test of Might. Do I have to discard one or two cards?
A: One. Jeff Alexander, "post for 7 June 2002", 8 Jun 2002 - Q: I have problems with Superior Strategist card text: Battle: Target one of your Personalities with the Tactician trait in this battle who has not used the trait during this battle. Get an Open or Battle Action card from your Fate deck and play the card. THIS is considered the target's use of the Tactician trait for this battle. Shuffle the deck.
When EXACTLY is considered I'm using Tactician?
A: The action of playing Superior Strategist is a use of Tactician. Jeff Alexander, "post for 21 February 2002", 22 Feb 2002 - Q: I asked this one a while ago and it must have been lost in the wash. I have always liked to recycle my SS's with TT. Does this work? Does my SS go straight to the top of the Fate deck after playing TT before I fetch the Open or Battle action......meaning it gets shuffled away, making the whole exercise pointless? Or does SS resolve after the fetched action is pulled and itself resolved (the wording in the accumulated rulings used to say that playing the fetched action was part of SS's effect), meaning I can return SS to the top of the deck with TT after shuffling? Confusing but relevant.
A: The shuffling is the last part of Superior Strategist's effect. Toturi's Tactics doesn't get played until all of SS's effects resolve, so it goes on after the shuffling. Jeff Alexander, "replies to 15-16 September 2001", 17 Sep 2001 - Q: Show of Strength states that you may not play it if you have already played a battle or open action this phse. Just to double check, this would mean that you can NOT use a Superior Strategist to go fish for it, correct?
A: Correct. Jeff Alexander, "replies to 6 September", 11 Sep 2001 - Q: I don't THINK I've seen this anywhere . . .
Can a player whose personality has a Scout and Armor of Sun Tao attached play a Deadly Ground out from under before his opponent's first action?
No. You can't take an action that would play a Terrain using the Scout, you have to just play the Terrain.
Scout text: An Attacker with a Scout in his army may play a terrain card before the Defender performs his first battle action.
AoST: Limited: You may store as many Terrain cards as you like face down under the armour of Sun-Tao. Battle: Play a Terrain from the Armor of Sun-Tao and destroy any Terrain for this battle (if any). The new Terrain may not be destroyed.
Scout says you can play a terrain card before the Defender. AoST says, as a Battle action, to play a terrain from under the armor, etc. Scout does not say where it has to come from or how it must be played. Theoretically, Superior Strategist will also work here. Why does Scout want cards from the hand?
A: To be honest, Superior Strategist was the card that made me change my mind about the ruling. Extending Scout's trait to cover non-normal play of cards opens a causality can of worms, and those are always yucky. If you can use the Armor, and you can use Osuno, and you can use the Oracle of Earth, then why not SupStrat? The literal text of that ruling allows you to use SupStrat to play a terrain, yet that just seems somehow...wrong. Any rules argument that starts to extend into causality is bad. Vaughn Derderian, "Rules for July 25th", 25 Jul 2001 - Q: Any number of Actions which count as a use of the Tactician trait - default (the actual Action is in the rulebook not on the card), Superior Strategist, Master's Tactics, etc - are not performed by the Tactician.
A: The Gold Edition rulebook will define discarding for a Tacticial Force bonus as an action performed by the Tactician. Jeff Alexander, "replies to the 6 June digest", 10 Jun 2001 - Q: Can the 'Superior Strategist' action be used to retrieve terrain from one's deck (considering that terrain are simply a different form of battle action).
A: Yes. Jeff Alexander, "Rulings for 11 February 2001", 16 Feb 2001 - Q: In a message dated 2/9/01 1:46:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, writes:
In a message dated 2/7/01 9:58:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, writes:
I've rethought it and I say it needs to stand. Gaheris only allows actions with certain effects to be played. If you don't know, at the time you play an action, whether its effect will be a valid one by Gaheris's text, then you can't play it.
By what I read on this Gaheris ruling, a player shouldn't be allowed to play Superior Strategist in response to his opponents playing of Deadly Ground.
Oh, there'll be repurcussions of this either way, let me assure you. It's not like there have never been inconsistancies within the archives before.
So then Deadly Ground, and Gaheris, which are worded virtually identical, have different rulings about how they work?
A: So then no matter WHICH way it goes, the archive will have to be combed to keep things consistent. Jeff Alexander, "Rulings for 9 February 2001", 15 Feb 2001 - Q: In a message dated 2/7/01 9:58:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, writes:
I've rethought it and I say it needs to stand. Gaheris only allows actions with certain effects to be played. If you don't know, at the time you play an action, whether its effect will be a valid one by Gaheris's text, then you can't play it.
By what I read on this Gaheris ruling, a player shouldn't be allowed to play Superior Strategist in response to his opponents playing of Deadly Ground.
A: Oh, there'll be repurcussions of this either way, let me assure you. It's not like there have never been inconsistancies within the archives before. Jeff Alexander, "Rulings for 7 February 2001", 9 Feb 2001 - Q: Formations are a special type of Action card that represent the capabilities of an organized army. When played, a Formation enters play at the current battlefield, and remains in play and controlled by its player until it is removed. After a Formation enters play but before it resolves, destroy all other Formations controlled by the same player. Each Formation has a requirement listed after the phrase, “Formed by”. You cannot play a Formation unless your army at the current battlefield meets this requirement. Also, unless a Formation is in play and its “Formed by” requirement is met, it produces no effects and its abilities cannot be used. Each condition mentioned must be met by a separate thing. For example, “Formed by a Samurai and a Courtier” requires two cards to meet, and is not satisfied by one Personality who is both a Samurai and a Courtier. Actions provided by Formations may be used any number of times per turn. Formations are played using the following action that all players may take and that is not actually on the Formation card itself: Battle: Any number of times per turn: Play a Formation from your hand. You may then take an additional legal Battle or Open action.
Battle: Choose your performing Tactician: Search your Fate deck for a Battle Strategy. You may take an additional Battle action to use one of its Battle abilities; if you do not, discard it.
I remember once I saw something that said if i fetch a formation using superior strategist i don't get another action to use the formations ability, instead i just get to play the formation. (not sure if it was from the l5r rules page but i could not find it anymore)
is this true? if yes why? and if not why not?
thanks!
A: All the rules for Formations you quoted above are now defunct and have been removed from the Legacy Format Rules, as the Oracle of the Void has updated Formations so that all their relevant text is ON them.
Also as a result, you may use Superior Strategist to put a Formation into play (if you meet its conditions), and you will get the additional action. Brook Cunningham, "(Legacy) Formations & Superior Strategist", 25 Apr 2012 - Q: (I) play Sneak Attack. As my Sneak Attack action, I play Superior Strategist and use Determination with it to prevent it from being negated. Does Determination also prevent the effects of the card played from being negated(?)
A: No. The effect of being given an extra action is the opportunity to use that action, not the action itself. Zen Faulkes, "Determination + Extra Actions", 5 Apr 2009 - Q: First, and this may be my stupidest question ever, can I use Sup Strat to look for a movement card (like Unwavering Assault) to move someone into a battle with no presence? I know that moving someone into a battle creates its own presence but can I use a Sup Strat (or Unshakable for that matter) to get that action to then move? I doubt it but I had to ask.
Second, as was asked in this thread http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=59308&p=763856&hilit=+Superior+Strategist#p763856 (but not really answered) Can I use Sup Strat on a bowed Tactician? Everything I understand about the rules tells me I can but my friends still doubt me so I figured i would ask. It is performed by a Tactician and uses a tactical action (unlike Unshakable) and doesn't specifically state that it requires an unbowed Tactician so this is valid correct?
Thank you.
Superior Strategist Tactical Battle: Target one of your Tacticians: Search your Fate deck for an Action card with a Battle ability. You may take an additional Battle action to use one of its Battle abilities; if you do not, discard it.
A: Can I use Sup Strat to look for a movement card (like Unwavering Assault) to move someone into a battle with no presence?
No. Superior Strategist must be legal to play, and at the point where you must "target one of your Tacticians", you have no-one to target. That is, you're failing to satisfy Location or Presence.
Can I use Sup Strat on a bowed Tactician?
Yes. Any targeting that doesn't specify unbowed (and doesn't specify bowed!) may target either a bowed or unbowed card. Alex Jones, "Two Superior Strategist questions", 25 Mar 2009 - Q: Does the additional action granted by Superior Strategist have to be performed by the Tactician who performed Superior Strategist?
Can I for example use Superior Strategist to search for a Draw Your Blade and use a different personality to pay the cost of dishonouring to bow a card with attachments?
A: Nowhere on Superior Strategist's text does it say that the additional action granted by Superior Strategist's text must be performed by the Tactician that performed Superior Strategist.
The additional action may be performed by any legal personality that can perform it. Dan Jacobson, "Superior Strategist's additional action", 30 Nov 2008 - Q: If deadly ground is in play, can one search for a forewarning or other terrain destruction with superior strategist?
A: No.
For Legacy questions, please include the old rulings archive in your searches:
Deadly Ground * Prevents the playing of all non-terrain-destroying actions within the Battle Action Segment and Resolution Segments [card text], including Reactions played "when" or "after" a card is destroyed. Does not prevent Reactions played "after resolution" or "after the Attack Phase." [Partial Reversal, DW, email, 6/2/97] * For an action to be legal, it must directly destroy Deadly Ground. Actions that destroy the terrain in a roundabout way (e.g., ending the battle without resolution) are not legal. [DW, 10 October 1996] Alex Jones, "Deadly Ground + Superior Strategist", 12 Jul 2008 - Q: Assuming I have a tactician at the current battle who has not yet used a tactical ability as well as the terrain Hazardous Terrain in play:
It is my turn to act and I play Superior Strategist. It grants an additional action to play the card I search for. Does Hazardous Ground split that into two actions? Are both of those actions restricted to only being used to play one of the Battle abilities on the card I searched for, forcing me to pass for the second action? Or could the second action be anything I wanted?
Superior Strategist Tactical Battle: Target one of your Tacticians: Search your Fate deck for an Action card with a Battle ability. You may take an additional Battle action to use one of its Battle abilities; if you do not, discard it. Hazardous Ground You may only play this card if you have a Samurai in this battle with a Chi of 4 or more. Battle Terrain: This terrain takes effect as soon as it is played. Beginning with your next opportunity to perform an action, whenever it is your turn to perform an action in this battle, you may perform two action instead of one.
A: Hazardous Ground gives you one additional action off Superior Strategist and one additional action off the additional action given by Superior Strategist.
Unlike Superior Strategist, Hazardous Ground does not add any restrictions to the actions it grants. You may announce any action you could normally announce. Alex Jones, "Hazardous Ground and granted actions", 2 May 2008 - Q: Can Determination change any of this?
A: Yes. Ide Towako and Swift Counterattack both "Negate the action's effects." Determination negates this negation. Alex Jones, "Superior Strategist/Determination vs. Ide Towako", 1 May 2008 - Q: Is there a time during the resolution of Superior Strategist that I could react with a Determination?
A: No. Determination is played "Before you announce an action." The effects of Superior Strategist are the card search and the granting of an additional action, neither of which is affected by Ide Towako or Swift Counterattack. The additional action is announced, targeted, paid for and resolved after the end of Superior Strategist's resolution: to prevent the negation of the additional action's effects you need to play Determination (immediately) before you announce the additional action. Alex Jones, "Superior Strategist/Determination vs. Ide Towako", 1 May 2008 - Q: Does Determination's protection from negation, and additional effects, extend to an additional action taken from the Determination'd action (i.e.: a kill effect played off of a Determination'd Superior Strategist)?
A: No - but, as described above, you can get result you want by playing Determination as a reaction to announcing the additional action. Alex Jones, "Superior Strategist/Determination vs. Ide Towako", 1 May 2008 - Q: Hello. Looked for this on Rules fourm and wiki, but found none except hints...
1) When I use a Terrain Fate card, is it considered playing a card (because : according to Terrain rules, Terrain is put into play), or playing ability from a card with side effect of putting Terrain into play ? According to definition of PLAY, this is not the same, and in first case, act of PLAYING a terrain doesn't count for it's own 'once per turn' limit, and there may be fuzzy ruling for cards that look for Battle ability and plays it (like : Superior Strategist or Unshakable).
2) Terrain rules states (A) that 'its effects resolve' and that Terrain 'enters play'. When (by default, for generic terrain) following triggers occur : 'this (playing a terrain) action ends' and 'it's efect ends' ? Is it dependent on specific terrain effects?
Reference : A Battle action with the Terrain keyword represents the ground on which a battle is fought. Terrains follow special rules. A) * Terrains are played as a Battle action. After a Terrain’s costs (if any) are paid, its card enters play at the current battlefield, and its effects resolve; do not discard it. A Terrain is not on either side, but it is at the battlefield, and can be destroyed. B) * A Terrain action cannot be played if a Terrain is already in play at the current battlefield. C) * When a Terrain leaves play, its effects with a duration end, and any of its delayed effects will not happen. D) * After battle resolution, discard any Terrains in play at that battlefield. Copied from SE ruleook preview, checked with SE printed rulebook, bullets have been labeled for easy reference.
Thank you.
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A: I don't really understand your questions at all.
"Terrain" is a keyword that shows up on Action cards. You play them as Action cards, with special rules because of the Terrain keyword - like entering play (instead of remaining in the Resolution Area) and remaining in play until removed (instead of being discarded after its immediate effects resolve).
No card in Samurai Edition should instruct you to "put a Terrain into play," as one of its effects. You should only be instructed to "play" Terrain cards. Martin Lund, "Playing/resolving a Terrain Battle action in SE", 17 Aug 2007 - Q: (A) Tactician could use Superior Strategist, or even the rulebook Tactical action, both of which he's performing, even while bowed, correct?
A: Maybe. It'll depend on the specific card text. Zen Faulkes, "Bowed Tacticians", 16 Jul 2007 - Q: How exactly does Seek the Path interact with Superior Strategist?
Relevant text:
Seek The Path:
Kiho Reaction: Target one of your unbowed Shugenja or Monks before a player searches his or her Fate deck for a card to force that player to draw the top card of his or her Fate deck instead. Draw a card
Superior Strategist:
Tactical Battle:
Search your Fate deck for an Action card with a Battle or Open action. If you find a card, gain an additional action after this one and play that card for a Battle or Open action.
My interpretation would be Seek the Path's text would force the player to draw their top card, instead of searching.
If the card they draw happens to have a Battle or Open action on it, they may immediately play it, if they desire, per Superior Strategist's text. If it doesn't have a Battle or Open, or has one they don't want to use it goes into their hand and their action ends.
Am I close?
Thanks.
A: Since you prevented them from Searching, they can't find anything. Since they can't find anything, they don't gain an additional action to play the card for a Battle or Open action. (card text) Martin Lund, "Seek the Path and Superior Strategist", 11 Apr 2005 - Q: When searching my fate deck for battle action to play, using either Superior Strategist or Rage, I'm required to immediately play the card for one of it's battle actions. Does the battle action on Shiranai Toshi to play a terrain from your hand count towards this if I searched for the terrain?
A: No. The action must be on the card retreived. Zen Faulkes, "Shiranai Toshi Question", 8 Mar 2005 - Q: [OBH]
Regarding good faith: My opponent plays deadly ground. Can I use a tactician to use (superior strategist/The Death Of The Winds) to search for a way to destroy Deadly ground?
A: No. The only actions playable are ones that directly remove it, not indirectly. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 2 Aug 2026 - Q: [OBH] A Samurai's Fury - After playing A Samurai's Fury - I equipped an attachment using the Mantis stronghold - Eastern Hub Port, can I still take an anditional Battle Action? Same with Superior Strategist and / or any Battle Action that provides additional Battle action like Formations
A: Yes, if the additional Battle action that A Samurai's Fury gives you then gives you more such additional actions (Mushin, anyone? 😉 ), you may take those too. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 22 Jun 2026