The Palace of Otosan Uchi
Legend of the Five Rings card from The Dark Journey Home, Promotional–Jade, Siege of Sleeping Mountain
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Stronghold
- Province Strength
- 7
- Gold Production
- 4
- Starting Family Honor
- 4
- Clan
- Toturi's Army
- Card Text
- If you are the only Toturi's Army player, you begin the game with control of the Imperial Favor.
Your Imperial cards in and out of play have -2 Gold Cost.
Reaction: When paying for a Follower attaching to one of your Personalities, reduce its cost by an amount equal to the Personality's Force until it is paid. - Legality
- Hidden Emperor (Jade)
- Deck
- Pre-Game
- Notes
- The promo version of this Stronghold was misprinted with the wrong title
Printings
The Dark Journey Home
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Artist
- Eric David Anderson
- Publisher
- Wizards of the Coast
Promotional–Jade
- Rarity
- Promo
- Artist
- Eric David Anderson
- Publisher
- Wizards of the Coast
Siege of Sleeping Mountain
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Artist
- Eric David Anderson
- Card Number
- Toturi's Army 00
- Publisher
- Wizards of the Coast
Rulings
- Q: Can I use the Palace of Otosan Uchi's reaction if it's bowed? Can I use both its reaction and its normal gold production on the same Follower? A: No and yes. The Imperial Herald, Issue 11, p. 26
Rules Q&A
- Q: Who gets the favor?
From what I'm reading, both of them will. - JEKxp goes first to take the favor (active player resolving trait); - however, TPoOU's trait will then kick in, - leaving the TA player controlling the favor after step B http://rules.alderac.com/cr_for_20f/#start-of-game
Thanks in advance!
**** copied below their verbatim trait in the Oracle
The Palace of Otosan Uchi Text If you are the only Toturi's Army player, you begin the game with control of the Imperial Favor. Your Imperial cards in and out of play have -2 Gold Cost.
Journey's End Keep Text "Imperial" is a Clan Alignment, and it is your Clan Alignment. If no other player has an Imperial Stronghold, you begin the game with the Imperial Favor. This card does not produce Gold when paying for Personalities. You may not buy Personalities with Clan discount if Imperial is their only Clan Alignment (this trait only has effect when using the Clan Discount optional rule).
A: Only one player can start with the Imperial Favor, since there is only one. It's like the first opportunity to take a Battle action in a battle; you can't both have it. And in this case, the player who's going first (the Journey's End Keep player if there aren't any other effects going on to change that) gets to decide who starts with the Favor.
The reason is that both Strongholds' "you start with the Favor" traits try to happen at the same time, when the game begins. When there's a timing conflict of this nature, the active player (who would be the starting player in this case) decides the order in which they happen. So, whoever's trait happens last, as determined by the active (starting) player, would be the one to get it. Brook Cunningham, "The Palace of Otosan Uchi vs Journey's End Keep Exp", 28 Aug 2015 - Q: [Another open/legacy question!]
The Palace of Otosan Uchi:
You begin the game with the Imperial Favor if you are the only Toturi's Army player. Your Imperial cards cost 2 less Gold. Reaction: Once per turn, when you are attaching a Follower to one of your Personalities, reduce the Follower's cost by the Personality's Force.
There are several cards which have the keyword "Unaligned Emperor" but, have no "Imperial" keyword. Are "Emperors" considered "Imperial", or not, by a strict reading?
A: No.
See Keywords: In keywords, parts of words or phrases are not the same as the whole word or phrase. Example: Dragon Clan and Dragon are different keywords. A Ninjato doesn’t count as a Ninja. A Monkey Clan Personality is not a Monk. Alex Jones, "The Palace of Otosan Uchi and Emperors", 20 May 2009