Toku
Legend of the Five Rings card from Soul of the Empire
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Personality
- Force
- 1
- Chi
- 4
- Honor Requirement
- 0
- Gold Cost
- 5
- Personal Honor
- 2
- Clan
- Toturi's Army
- Keywords
- Experienced 3, Unique, Captain of the Guard, Clan Champion, Monkey Clan, Samurai, Toturi's Army
- Card Text
- After Toku straightens: Remove all Exhaustion tokens from him.
Reaction: Any number of times per turn, after another player targets Toku's unit with an action, give him a -1C Exhaustion token: Negate the action's effects. - Legality
- Hidden Emperor (Jade)
- Deck
- Dynasty
Printings
Soul of the Empire
- Rarity
- Uncommon
- Artist
- Mark A. Nelson
- Publisher
- Wizards of the Coast
Rules Q&A
- Q: [A] Crane player uses the Egg of P'an Ku to copy his own Exp Kurohito. Next, the original Exp Kurohito loses a duel, perhaps to Toku, and dies. Can his Crane opponent: a. play an Egg if P'an Ku b. play Exp Kurohito
A: No to both. See the Egg of P'an Ku mini-FAQ, here: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/sarah-and-zen/l5r/zcotw~1.html#25 Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 22 October 2003", 22 Oct 2003 - Q: He does not have a "phantom bonus" from focusing. He has a real bonus. Not everyone knows how large it is, but it's really there.
So what happens if Toku starts focussing some Lesser Oni against someone with Lord Moon's Bones?
A: Each time he focuses, he gets +0 Chi from the focus and -1C from the Bones' effect. At some point, this will kill him. Jeff Alexander, "post for 29 January 2003", 30 Jan 2003 - Q: So then Toku would commit seppuku before the "dishonor Toku" effect occurred, right? The 7 pt loss happens before the dishonoring, as it is printed first on the card.
Yes, though it shouldn't matter. Seppuku also negates any dishonoring to the Personality coming from the same source as the honor loss. I *thought* this was in the Dark Allies rulebook. Apparently I'm mistaken.
Ide Michisuna would be why it could matter, as he negates the re-honoring effect of seppukku, and Toku's controller would lose 2 honor.
A: Not if Toku is already dead and in the discard pile, which is the case if Toku seppukus when the action first targets him or when the honor is lost. Jeff Alexander, "post for 12 November 2002", 13 Nov 2002 - Q: Dark Lord's Favor
Here's the setup.
It's your opponent's turn. You have Toku on the table.
Can you use Dark Lord's Favor to take the 7 Honor Loss, as an Open action dishonor Toku, and then seppuku him to knock the honor loss on the head?
Yes.
I am probably being nitpicky here, but the honor loss and being dishonored are two separate sentences, and as such, don't happen at the same time, correct?
Correct.
So the scenario runs more like this...
1) Lose 7 honor. Does Toku commit sep? No, lose the 7 honor.
2) Use the Open Action, Toku is dishonored. Does Toku commit sep? Yes, Toku dies honorably.
Samurai cannot commit their inherent seppuku to becoming dishonored -- only to being involved in an honor loss. Toku cannot seppuku at step 2.
Also, by the rulebook, samurai commit seppuku upon being targeted by an action, taking an action, or making a decision that will result in a loss. Toku has to seppuku as soon as he is targeted by Dark Lord's Favor, which is in plenty of time to catch and reduce the 7 point loss.
So then Toku would commit seppuku before the "dishonor Toku" effect occurred, right? The 7 pt loss happens before the dishonoring, as it is printed first on the card.
A: Yes, though it shouldn't matter. Seppuku also negates any dishonoring to the Personality coming from the same source as the honor loss. I *thought* this was in the Dark Allies rulebook. Apparently I'm mistaken. Jeff Alexander, "post for 11 November 2002", 12 Nov 2002 - Q: Dark Lord's Favor
Here's the setup.
It's your opponent's turn. You have Toku on the table.
Can you use Dark Lord's Favor to take the 7 Honor Loss, as an Open action dishonor Toku, and then seppuku him to knock the honor loss on the head?
A: Yes. Jeff Alexander, "post for 8 November 2002", 9 Nov 2002 - Q: Toku says unit... ahhhhh ok i see what your saying.. since he has a follower the card isnt targeting the whole unit its just his follower... so he can't use his reaction.. hmmmm.
A: Bingo. Jeff Alexander, "post for 22 May 2002", 23 May 2002 - Q: Can I use Toku exp 3.'s ability to cancel it or just cancel what would be hitting Toku's unit or is it not cancelable at all?
A: If Toku has no Followers, he could cancel the entire action, which would prevent all the ranged attacks. If he has Followers, then his unit, as a whole, is not being targeted, and he cannot react. ("Target a unit" and "target a Personality" are equivalent, but "target a unit" and "target one or more cards in a unit" are not necessarily. I'll see what the Rules Team has to say about this.) Jeff Alexander, "post for 21 May 2002", 22 May 2002 - Q: For instance: Toku bows to give one of his followers +1F and then unbows because he's Toku and he's just that cool.
My opponent drops an ISOF. Does Toku's follower lose that extra 1 force?
A: No. Jeff Alexander, "post for 7 December 2001", 8 Dec 2001 - Q: Hey all this came up in several games this week. What traits are lost when a personality swears fealty to your clan from an oath of fealty? Would Toku Exp3 loose the Monkey Clan and TA trait or would he loose the Monkey Clan Champion and TA trait?
A: The only traits that are lost to Oath of Fealty are game recognized Clan traits (Crab, Crane, and so on). Minor Clan names and all the Clan traits that are specifically unaffected by swearing fealty (Naga, Ninja, etc.) are unaffected.
In the example case, Toku would lose his TA trait, but keep his Monkey Clan Champion status. Vaughn Derderian, "Rules for November 27th", 27 Nov 2000 - Q: In response to this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=70797
1. I have Michio XP in play. 2. My opponent has only Toku in play and, in his hand, only actions that require unbowed personalities (+Determination). 3. My opponent announces and resolves Determination targetting Toku. 4. I bow Toku with Michio XP. 5. My opponent has no valid actions that he can announce at this point (since Determination happens before an action is announced).
In the linked thread, Zen's answer from Oct 09, at 8:47 (since there was more than one) was a quotation from the rules archive that mentions "From the point when an action is announced...", however, when Michio XP's reaction is used, the action that Determination would have affected hasn't been announced yet, since Determination happens "Before you announce an action".
Does my opponent pick an action to discard from his hand that would have been legal if I didn't react with Michio XP, and discard it, even though he technically never announced it?
~Andrew
A: Ah, good point.
Nothing happens, because nothing can happen. Nothing is attempted. Nothing fails. Nothing is discarded.
This will usually need a judge to confirm in a tournament situation. Zen Faulkes, "Determination + Michio XP", 17 Oct 2008