Bayushi Saya

Legend of the Five Rings card from Test of Enlightenment

Card Type

Personality

Force

3

Chi

4

Honor Requirement

-

Gold Cost

8

Personal Honor

1

Clan

Scorpion

Keywords

Enlightened, Unique, Courtier, Experienced, Samurai, Scorpion Clan

Card Text

Elemental Reaction: After a Personality becomes dishonorable, target him and bow or discard a Ring you own: Destroy the Personality.

Legality

Age of Enlightenment (Lotus)

Deck

Dynasty

Story

2006 Kotei Winner - Tim Wiinkainen

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: Is it legal to seppuku a samurai/courtier who was targeted by Bayushi Saya's ability after assigning to battle?
  A: Yes, it is legal.
  Your proposed answer to your own question is incorrect; you are losing honor from the delayed effect of Saya's ACTION (which targeted your Personality, fulfilling the Seppuku trigger), not from the assigning itself. Brook Cunningham, "Bayushi Saya and Seppuku after assigning to battle", 5 Mar 2009
• Q: If I Saya my opponent's personality, and then Ambush that personality, does he become dishonored for assigning?
  A: No, for the reasons you underlined.
  In the Ambush, YOU are assigning the Personality, not his controller (as in Saya's text). Brook Cunningham, "Ambush + Bayushi Saya", 18 Jan 2009
• Q: If I target my opponents personality with my Bayushi Saya, then attach Yajuu No Oni to their personality are they dishonred for performing the equip?
  [Mod edit: Card names fixed in thread title. Please remember to use complete card titles when asking questions. Thanks! -ZF]
  A: Short answer: Yes. You're still using the Equip action, the follower's trait just expands the available range of targets.
  Longer answer: Similar questions about equipping and how it interacts with Bayushi Saya have been answered, and almost always revolve around, "What performs an action?"
  Here's a bit about equipping: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=59876 with follow-up commentary here: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=65582
  And Marty did a post on sharing and moving things: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=59500
  And remember, it never hurts to...
  Specifically the entry on "What performs an action?": http://rules.l5r.com/FAQ#What_performs_an_action.3F Zen Faulkes, "Yajuu no Oni and Bayushi Saya", 22 May 2008
• Q: Reaction: After another player's action resolves that dishonored any of his own Personalities: Destroy one of those target Personalities.
  Taken from:
  viewtopic.php?f=59&t=63779
  To help clarify what the original querant was asking:
  Situation #1: Player A controls Bayushi Saya and uses her Political Open ability to target a Hida Daiyu (for example) controlled by Player B. Player B uses Hida Daiyu's ability to create a follower token, and thus dishonors Hida Daiyu.
  Can Player A react with Doomed Intentions to destroy Hida Daiyu, or was the source of the dishonoring Bayushi Saya's action and not Hida Daiyu's?
  A: Saya's ability is the one that produced the Dishonor effect. You can't play Doomed Intentions. Martin Lund, "Clarification: Bayushi Saya and Doomed Intentions", 13 Dec 2007
• Q: Basically, I believe the issue is that someone somewhere is having a lot of trouble trying to figure out where the source of effects comes from.
  A: The Effect is listing in the Effects Block of the Ability. The card with that Ability is the source of the Effect.
  Moreover, re-read Doomed Intentions. It only cares about the effects of Actions. If the effect came from a non-Action source you couldn't play Doomed Intentions anyway. My personalities can never be hit with Doomed Intentions in response to one of my Opponents playing an Action.
  I know the card is expensive on Ebay and all, but it isn't made out of Gundanium or Pixie Dust. Martin Lund, "Clarification: Bayushi Saya and Doomed Intentions", 13 Dec 2007
• Q: I target one of his personalities with my Bayushi Saya. My opponent uses an ability on the targeted personality, thus dishonoring him. I react with Doomed Intentions, killing his personality. Legal?
  A: No. Nowhere in the effects of the ability he used does it say to Dishonor the Personality. Saya doesn't modify any other card's abilities. The effect is that of her own Action and will not successfully provide a trigger for Doomed Intentions. When Saya's action resolves, it hasn't dishonored anything yet - only set in motion an effect that could later dishonor someone. When someone else's action resolves that triggers Saya's lingering effect, it still isn't that other action's effect that does the Dishonoring. Martin Lund, "Bayushi Saya and Doomed Intentions", 12 Sep 2007
• Q: If a personality causes a honor loss of ZERO can that personality perfrom seppuku?
  A: http://rules.l5r.com/The_Player#Family_Honor: "An Honor gain of 0 points is not considered a gain for things that check whether a gain happened; likewise an Honor loss of 0 points is not considered a loss for such things." (Emphasis added.)
  No. Zen Faulkes, "Bayushi Saya, already dishonored and Seppuku", 3 Sep 2007
• Q: If Bayushi Saya targets a personality with her base ability, and later that turn the targeted personality commits seppuku, does the seppuku trigger the effects of Saya's ability?
  A: No. Seppuku does not cause an honor loss; it alters honor losses from other sources. Zen Faulkes, "Bayushi Saya vs Seppuku", 14 Aug 2007
• Q: A Personality or Follower is performing an action if its controller is the player taking the action, and any of these things is true:
  A: Note the whole "if its controller is the player taking the action," line right there. If you hit another player's Personality with Unrequited Love, that Personality does not "Perform" Unrequited Love. Martin Lund, "Bayushi Saya+Unrequited Love", 31 Jul 2007
• Q: Does a player lose honor after removing Daizan from play which was targetet by a Saya before?
  A: Mod request: Please include Experience levels when there is more than one version of a card. Thanks! Zen Faulkes, "Bayushi Saya + Shiba Daizan", 30 May 2007
• Q: [OBH]
  Hello. Can I Bow Rosoku Sensei to use Bayushi Saya EXP reaction?
  A: Yes. Brook Cunningham, "Sun and Moon #rules-questions", 15 Aug 2026