Unshakable Resolve

Legend of the Five Rings card from Path of the Destroyer

Card Type

Strategy

Gold Cost

0

Card Text

Open: Target your dishonorable Personality: Rehonor him. While he is opposed this turn, he has a Force bonus equal to his Personal Honor. If his Personal Honor is 4 or greater, gain 1 Honor.

Focus Value

2

Legality

Destroyer War (Celestial)

Deck

Fate

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: This ruling: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=90494&p=1201878
  Zen said he was going to kick it to the Rules Junta . . . any word?
  I think the main part of the issue is the wording of the rules are these. At least 3 cards that are affected are A Gentle Word, Kitsune Den, and Unshakable Resolve - all of which rehonor first, then gain honor:
  Physically Marked Card States Dishonorable status is checked when the Personality is targeted, etc.
  References: Dishonorable status is checked only at the time the targeting, origin or performing of the action or trait is established.
  A: Fixed it! Those cards now work as they should within the parameters of the Rules.
  Honorable and Disohonorable status: "Before a player gains Honor from an action or trait that targeted, came from, or was performed by one or more of his or her dishonorable Personalities, if any of those Personalities is not otherwise rehonored by the action or trait, each Personality is rehonored and the player does not gain the Honor. (Dishonorable status is checked when the Personality is targeted, etc. For more details, see References). [CHANGED 2 Aug 2011]" Brook Cunningham, "Unshakable Resolve and Kitsune Den", 1 Aug 2011
• Q: In looking at one of the BtD previews, I had a bit of a head scratching moment:
  Kitsune Den: Political Limited: Destroy this card: Rehonor one or more target dishonorable Personalities. Gain Honor equal to the highest base Personal Honor among them.
  Unshakable Resolve: Open: Rehonor your target dishonorable Personality. While he is opposed this turn, he has a Force bonus equal to his Personal Honor. If his Personal Honor is 4 or greater, gain 1 Honor.
  Rules: The rules for rehonoring Personalities say a Personality is rehonored, "Before a player gains Honor from an action or trait that targeted, came from, or was performed by one or more of his or her dishonorable Personalities, the Personality is rehonored and the player does not gain the Honor." Dishonorable status is checked only at the time the targeting, origin or performing of the action or trait is established.
  The honor gain from both Kitsune Den and Unshakable Resolve comes from an action that targeted one or more dishonorable personalities. The rules say that dishonorable status is checked when the targeting occur, which is before they are rehonored. Technically, doesn't that mean you would gain 0 honor, because the personalities were dishonorable at the time?
  A: Since you mentioned Before the Dawn previews, sorry, not yet on those: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=89812
  That said... in general, note that the rules on rehonoring Personalities (http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Physically_mark ... shonorable) does not include specific card effects. And effects resolve in the order written (http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Effects#Order_of_effects). Zen Faulkes, "Unshakable Resolve and Kitsune Den", 30 Apr 2011
• Q: There are no dishonorable personalities in play (but there are honorable ones). can i still use Unshakable Resolve or Kitsune Den's abilities?
  A: No. Those are mandatory targets.
  http://rules.l5r.com/CE_FAQ#What_are_re ... targets.3F: "All required targeting must be met, including that given in the effects block, to take the action." Zen Faulkes, "Unshakable Resolve and Kitsune Den", 27 Mar 2010
• Q: a question came up in a recent game regarding Unshakable Resolve and Kitsune Den
  setting: there are no dishonorable personalities in play (but there are honorable ones)
  question: can i still use Unshakable Resolve or Kitsune Den's abilities? the targeting part of both cards would fail, ie no dishonorable persons, but would the other parts still occur (ie gain honor or force) or am i wrong (which i suspect i am)? there are no constraint costs (words between colons?) that specify a dishonorable peep, so it makes me unsure what the rule would be.
  Unshakable Resolve Open: Rehonor your target dishonorable Personality. While he is opposed this turn, he has a Force bonus equal to his Personal Honor. If his Personal Honor is 4 or greater, gain 1 Honor.
  Kitsune Den Political Limited: Destroy this card: Rehonor one or more target dishonorable Personalities. Gain Honor equal to the highest base Personal Honor among them.
  thanks for your time
  A: Without dishonorable targets, you cannot legally announce those actions.
  Good Faith Rule (Emphasis Mine): "When an action is announced, the player must be able to target all required targets, meet all conditions of the action, and pay all mandatory costs, to the best of his or her knowledge."
  Required Targeting: "An action’s required targets consist of anything that is targeted by the player taking the action in the action's constraints or effects, using the word “target” or “targets,” unless the targeting is explicitly described as optional." Brook Cunningham, "Unshakable Resolve and Kitsune Den", 27 Mar 2010
• Q: Regarding this
  I agree with Zen's answer, but most often that kind of questions usually mean "can I do this if I don't control a dishonored personality?". Rehonoring can fail, and the rest of the effects will happen, but the dishonorable personality is a mandatory target, so Unshakable Resolve can't be played if you don't control a dishonored personality in the first place.
  Just to clarify things for the original poster
  A: See also Alex's post above, which made the same point.
  The FAQ entry does specifically say mandatory targeting has to happen. Zen Faulkes, "Unshakable Resolve", 24 Sep 2009
• Q: RE: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=79297
  You still have to target your own dishonorable personality, right? You can't just target an honorable personality and give them a force bonus (and gain honor if they are PH 4 or more), right?
  A: This action has one required target: your dishonourable Personality. If you have no dishonourable Personalities, you may not announce the action.
  However, as Zen stated in answer to your original question, there is no requirement that the Personality can be rehonoured: if the Personality's rehonouring is negated by any effect (for example Utter Defeat, from Samurai Edition), the remaining effects will resolve. At least, they will try to resolve, since if the Personality is dishonoured his personal honour is 0, so his force bonus when opposed will be 0f and you won't gain any honour from Unshakable Resolve. Alex Jones, "Unshakable Resolve", 24 Sep 2009
• Q: Unshakable Resolve: does the Rehonor your target dishonorale personality have to be meet for the the remaining affects to occur.
  A: This is a variation of "Is an action legal if an effect can't happen?"
  http://rules.l5r.com/CE_FAQ#Is_an_actio ... _happen.3F Zen Faulkes, "Unshakable Resolve", 23 Sep 2009