Wall of Honor
Legend of the Five Rings card from Emperor Edition, Path of the Destroyer, War of Honor
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Card Text
- Battle: Move your performing opposed Personality home: Increase or decrease the strength of the current battlefield's province by an amount equal to the number of units on the enemy side there. Gain 2 Honor.
- Focus Value
- 3
- Legality
- Age of Conquest (Emperor), Destroyer War (Celestial)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Emperor Edition
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "Seal it up," Kisada commanded. "For the love of the Heavens, Nitoshi, you must seal it up in stone and steel."
- Artist
- Fares Maese
- Card Number
- 388
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Path of the Destroyer
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "My Empress, my heart chills to remember it. Unending waves of demons crashed against the Wall, and time and again your samurai pushed them back." - Miya Shoin
- Artist
- Fares Maese
- Card Number
- 137
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
War of Honor
- Rarity
- Fixed
- Flavor Text
- "A true samurai's soul is hardened against attack. No weakness can break it, but insults should not be borne lightly regardless." - Akodo Dosei
- Artist
- Fares Maese
- Card Number
- 123
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: This is a simple question about cost negation vs the Good Faith Rule, but since the Good Faith Rule tends to be a bit fuzzy I just want to confirm.
Situation: The event Too Close to Home has resolved, negating all movement to and from battlefields. In battle, my opponent wants to move home with Wall of Honor. The movement obviously fails, but does that mean the cost was not paid and the rest of the action fails? Does the Good Faith Rule prevent him from even announcing the action? Or does the action work?
This is the most recent ruling I can see that is relevant, but I want to make sure nothing has changed since CE. http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=95377&p=1265644&hilit=costs+negated#p1265644
Too Close to Home: You may choose and destroy a Region. Until your next turn begins, negate all movement to and from battlegrounds.
Wall of Honor: Battle: Move your performing opposed Personality home: Increase or decrease the strength of the current battlefield's province by an amount equal to the number of units on the enemy side there. Gain 2 Honor.
A: Nothing has changed here since Celestial Edition.
You may not announce an action whose cost you cannot pay, including costs that you cannot pay because they will be negated by existing effects. See Good Faith Rule: Aspects of the game state are taken into account in determining legality under the Good Faith Rule, such as effects that reduce costs, prevent costs from being paid, or relax requirements. Alex Jones, "Wall of Honor vs Too Close to Home", 28 Jun 2012 - Q: Hello!
I announce an action that will produce an honor gain, like Wall of Honor for example. My opponent reacts during the announcement of the action with Only Actions Speak. Before the resolution of the action, I react with The Thriving Light. Now, which of the two reactions will affect the honor gain first? Does it matter whose turn it is? And if my Thriving Light reduces the gain to 0 before O.A.S. affects it, am I right to think that the rest of my honor gains for the phase will not be affected either? Thanks a bunch!
Relevant Texts: The Thriving Light Reaction: Before an action's resolution: Until that resolution ends, reduce the next Honor gain or loss by 5 (minimum zero)
Only Actions Speak Reaction: After an action is announced: Negate all Honor gains until after the action's resolution. At that time if this negated any gains, negate all Honor gains until the end of this phase and draw a card.
A: Only Actions Speak "wins".
See Timing sequence: If two or more reactions, triggered traits, or rules procedures are triggered at the same point in time, follow this sequence from A through C to decide their order. A. Apply any ongoing or continuous effects that negate, prevent, or substitute the occurrence that defines the trigger, making the occurrence not happen in the first place. ... B. Anything that is triggered at this point but is not a Reaction happens now. ... C. Reactions may now be taken following an action round procedure. ... The order of resolution means that triggered effects that come first, due to the above order, the order of Reactions, or the active player’s decision, can negate or otherwise make impossible triggered effects and Reactions that come later. When this happens, Reactions to the now nonexistent trigger may not be taken, and other triggered effects fail to occur. The reduction of a change to a number to zero (for example, reducing a loss, gain, bonus or penalty) by a non-Reaction effect timed “before” the loss or gain has a special interaction with these timing rules. Such a reduction is not a negation or prevention, so it is not applied at step A. It is instead applied at step B.
Only Actions Speak negates the honour gain so it triggers in step A; The Thriving Light reduces the honour gain, so it would trigger in step B, except that Only Actions Speak has already negated it. Alex Jones, "Only Actions Speak and The Thriving Light", 4 Jun 2010 - Q: Wall of Honor Battle: Move your target opposed Personality home: Increase or decrease this province's strength by the number of units on the enemy side at the current battlefield. Gain 2 Honor.
Shame Never Dies Political Reaction: After the resolution of an action that moved home or destroyed a dishonorable Personality at a battlefield, target your Courtier, and bow him unless he is Scorpion Clan: The Personality's owner loses 3 Honor.
I wall of honor my dishonorable personality to rehonor him at home. Does Shame Never Dies care whether he was honorable when the movement happen, or does it check at resolution after the personality has rehonored?
A: The personality was dishonored when he moved home. Shame Never Dies can be played.
If he rehonored before somehow (Say an action that says Battle: Target your performing personality: Gain 1 honor. Move him home.) then Shame Never Dies would not be legal, as he was honorable when he moved home. Dan Jacobson, "Wall of Honor vs. Shame Never Dies", 26 Feb 2010