Yoritomo Hiromi

Legend of the Five Rings card from Emperor Edition, Promotional–Emperor

Card Type

Personality

Force

8

Chi

5

Honor Requirement

2

Gold Cost

13

Personal Honor

3

Clan

Mantis

Keywords

Loyal, Naval, Unique, Clan Champion, Mantis Clan, Samurai, Thunder

Card Text

Bowing, destruction, and movement from Battle actions Hiromi performs will not be negated or delayed.
Battle: Target an enemy card without attachments, or an enemy unit, with a lower total Gold Cost than Hiromi's unit: Hiromi strikes with the power of Thunder. Destroy the target.

Legality

Age of Conquest (Emperor)

Deck

Dynasty

Printings

Rules Q&A

• Q: I target my weapon-wielding Kensai with Tamori Takeshi and send him off to an attack against Yoritomo Hiromi. Hiromi proceeds to use his Battle action and destroy the unit. I react to the targeting by playing Hundred-Fold Cut and destroying the weapon as a cost (it would be destroyed anyway). Does my Kensai survive the power of Thunder or not?
  Relevant text:
  Yoritomo Hiromi Bowing, destruction, and movement from Battle actions Hiromi performs will not be negated or delayed. Battle: Target an enemy card without attachments, or an enemy unit, with a lower total Gold Cost than Hiromi's unit: Hiromi strikes with the power of Thunder. Destroy the target.
  Tamori Takeshi Open: Target your Personality: Takeshi helps him meditate. Effects of actions the target performs will not be negated.
  Hundred-Fold Cut Reaction: After another player's action targets your performing Kensai, bow or destroy one of his Weapons: Negate his destruction from the action's effects.
  A: "Will not be negated" is not itself negation, so Hiromi wins. Hundred-Fold Cut cannot save you. Brook Cunningham, "Tamori Takeshi vs. Yoritomo Hiromi", 4 Sep 2013
• Q: Ok so if my opponent uses the unit kill part of his battle action and i ryoshun's it and target a card in another unit that is an attachment is that legal sense the previous target was to destroy a unit with lower gold? Also if that second unit is also lower gold will it destroy the card i targeted or the whole unit? I understand that it says OR so im assuming when i use ryoshun's i get to choose now weather it kills a card without attachments or the unit correct?
  Bowing, destruction, and movement from Battle actions Hiromi performs will not be negated or delayed. Battle: Target an enemy card without attachments, or an enemy unit, with a lower total Gold Cost than Hiromi's unit: Hiromi strikes with the power of Thunder. Destroy the target.
  A: Please note the trigger on Ryoshun's Guidance: "When another player's action would target one of your cards". Since Hiromi is targeting a unit, he is also targeting its Personality. Then we get to the second part of Ryoshun's: "Choose another of your non-Stronghold cards at the same location. The action targets it instead, if legal". You can choose another card as the target. This is however only targeting that card, no-longer targeting a unit, so it will only destroy that card. Jon Palmer, "Yoritomo Hiromi", 24 Sep 2012
• Q: Example is that Player A attacks a province with Yoritomo Hiromi and Player B defends with a tatooed monk.
  what happen when Hiromi uses his battle ability to kill the monk and Player B reacts with Snake Tattoo. will the monk move to the adjacent battle field and there he will be destroyed or be alive since its the monk is already an illegal target.
  A: The fact that the monk becomes an illegal target AFTER having been targeted has no bearing in the basic rules. Once having been legally targeted, that step is over. The only reason it matters is that becoming an illegal target after the fact is a condition of Snake Tattoo's negation. But, since the destruction effect of Hiromi's action won't be negated due to his trait, then Snake Tattoo will do nothing besides move your monk, and the action's effects will still destroy him, because he was legally targeted when that step occurred. Brook Cunningham, "illegal target and cannot be negated", 21 May 2012
• Q: If use Daigotsu Hotako ability to target Yoritomo Hiromi, can Hiromi still use his battle action?
  I found another thread which says that the "will not" is stronger than Hiromi's trait but I couldn't find a thread refering to the "may not". -> viewtopic.php?f=59&t=97679&p=1289707&hilit=yoritomo+hiromi#p1289707
  So, basically I would like to know if Hotako's ability is a negation.
  Thank you.
  The cards text:
  A: As is described here, "May not" is used to prevent choices, such as the choice to announce the use of Hitomi's action in this specific case.
  Since you may not even announce the action since he may not perform it (and is the only possible Performer), then Hiromi's trait doesn't kick in to keep the action's effects from being negated.
  Short answer, yes Hotaku trumps Hiromi. Ben Higgins, "Daigotsu Hotako vs Yoritimo Hiromi", 20 May 2012
• Q: I've read rules on effects and probably a similar thread, but my problem is slightly different.
  Player A, during an Action Phase, plays Accidental Confession onto Player B's Yoritomo Hiromi:
  Accidental Confession: Open: Choose your performing unbowed Courtier, discard the Imperial Favor, and target a Personality: Dishonor him. His controller may not assign him, and he will not move, to battlefields this turn.
  Then it comes to the Attack Phase and during a Combat Segment Player B tries to move Hiromi to a battlefield with A Brave New World, using his trait:
  Yoritomo Hiromi: Bowing, destruction, and movement from Battle actions Hiromi performs will not be negated or delayed.
  A Brave New World: Battle: Choose your performing Personality and discard a card: Move your Personality to the current battlefield. Straighten his unit if he moved.
  There are two "will not" preventions here, so can Player B move Hiromi or not? Which negation, that of Accidental Confession or Hiromi's, is stronger?
  A: In this case, Accidental Confession's "will not move" will take precedence. Hiromi says his movement will not be negated; however, "will not move" is not negation, it's stronger than that. Jon Palmer, ""Will not move" vs "this movement will not be negated"", 29 Apr 2012