Bestial Rage
Legend of the Five Rings card from The Dead of Winter
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Card Text
- Battle/Open: Target your performing unbowed Nonhuman Personality and destroy one of your Personalities at his location to give your Nonhuman a number of +1F Frenzy tokens equal to the destroyed Personality's printed Force. Negate the bowing and movement of your Nonhuman (this turn).
- Focus Value
- 1
- Legality
- Destroyer War (Celestial)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
The Dead of Winter
- Rarity
- Uncommon
- Flavor Text
- "How does one fight a creature that disregards all pain, all wounds, in its blinding desire to destroy one's being?" - Isawa Mitsuko
- Artist
- Mike Capprotti
- Card Number
- 113
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: Does Bestial Rage negate the bowing caused by battle resolution?
A: Yes indeed. Brook Cunningham, "Bestial Rage and battle resolution?", 4 Dec 2011 - Q: looking at http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Abilities_and_a ... esignators mostly.
So we have Scouting Far Afield which lets me search for a "battle strategy"
http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Card_types#Strategy_cards doesn't quite explain what a "battle strategy" is, it does however explain what strategy cards are very well
There are 2 things that i'm looking at in the Designators link at the top. One is
and the other under that is
My question is fairly simple. I have used another strategy during my open phase that says Battle/Open with no other battle actions on it. For the purposes of this question I'll put up Bestial Rage (quoted below). Now during the opposed battle, I want to bow one of my personalities to get back Bestial Rage. So I get from the parts quoted above that the card itself is battle/open. Since I have used it for the open action and the game knows it was used as an open action, is the card in the discard pile considered to only be an open or does it still both a battle and open action? The main problem I'm seeing is just no real point in the rulebook (that i could find) which states what a "battle strategy" is while cards (at least scouting far afield) refers to this type of card. Since we seem to be assuming that a battle strategy is a strategy that has the Battle designator, could we not also assume that the game knowing the card was used as an open action no longer has the Battle designator, but only the Open designator?
A: There is a fundamental difference between an action and an ability:
Ability: Text on a card, or granted to a player, that allows an action to be taken. Abilities are used.
Action: A sequence of targeting, costs, and effects that comes from an ability. ... Actions are taken.
I've not quoted some less helpful text, which I'll get replaced. An ability can have multiple designators, typically "Battle/Open:", but an action will only be one of them. However, this doesn't change the ability in any way. If a Battle/Open ability on a card is used to take an Open action, the ability is still a Battle/Open ability, and the card, if a Strategy, is still a Battle Strategy. Alex Jones, "Action card designators, Scouting Far Afield and game memory", 30 Jun 2011 - Q: regarding viewtopic.php?f=59&t=90677
Can you actually react with Fu Leng's Guidance? You control the personality at the moment.
A: Good point, you cannot react with Fu Leng's Guidance because the Personality was not "another player's Personality" at the time he was destroyed.
I was focusing on the "permanent control" aspect of the question, which would still apply if you returned the Personality to play with, say, Feign Death. Alex Jones, "Bestial Rage and Fu Leng's Guidance", 14 May 2011 - Q: If you target Shikibu no Oni with bestial rage to give a nonhuman personality 8 +1 Frenzy tokens. Can you use Shikibu's trait to kill some other personality in play with out killing Shikibu no Oni?
Fu
A: No, because in order to pay the cost of "destroy one of your Personalities", the Personality you choose must actually be destroyed. Alex Jones, "Shikibu no Oni and Bestial Rage", 27 Jan 2011