You Die With Me!
Legend of the Five Rings card from Khan's Defiance, Samurai Edition Banzai
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Strategy
- Gold Cost
- 0
- Keywords
- Heroic
- Card Text
- Reaction: After another player's Battle action resolves which destroyed one of your Hero Personalities, destroy a target enemy Follower, or Personality without Followers, in the current enemy army.
- Focus Value
- 2
- Legality
- Age of Enlightenment (Lotus), Race for the Throne (Samurai)
- Deck
- Fate
Printings
Khan's Defiance
- Rarity
- Common
- Flavor Text
- "You are nothing!" Kengo roared. "I will wallow in a lake of your blood!"
- Artist
- Jonathan Hunt
- Card Number
- 93
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Samurai Edition Banzai
- Rarity
- Starter
- Flavor Text
- "You are nothing!" Kengo roared. "I will wallow in a lake of your blood!"
- Artist
- Jonathan Hunt
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rules Q&A
- Q: You Die With Me: Heroic Reaction: After another player resolves a Battle action which destroyed one of your Hero Personalities: Destroy a target Follower, or Personality without Followers, in the current enemy army. Chuda Hankyu: Battle: Destroy this card and dishonor this Personality: Lose 3 Honor. Destroy a target Follower, or Personality without Followers, with a Force less than 5 at any location.
I attack and opponent defends on another province(opposed or unopposed) or he desides not to defend at all. I use Chuda Hankyu action and destroy one of his Heros (home or another battlefield). 1. Can he use reaction od You Die With Me to destroy me personality at a battlefield where I'm attacking and resolving battle actions (he got no personality there)? 2. If he would be opposed in the another battlefield - can he use reaction on You Die With Me to destroy one of my personalities there? The battlefield hasn't been resolved yet. 3. If he would be able to play Misdirection can he chose to destroy on of my own personalities at any location?
A: Neither the Rule of Presence nor the Rule of Location apply to Reactions, only Battle Actions - as noted in their text.
"Destroy a target Follower, or Personality without Followers, in the current enemy army." is very explicit. You can only target cards in the "current enemy army," - the enemy army at the Current Battlefield.
Finally, yes, he could play Misdirection to force you to kill one of your own cards at any location with Chuda Hankyu. You are actually allowed to kill your own cards with the Hankyu - it is not a Ranged Attack thus isn't restricted anywhere in the rules to only working on "enemy" cards. Martin Lund, "Chuda Hankyu & You Die With Me", 26 Feb 2008 - Q: You Die With Me! Heroic Reaction: After another player resolves a Battle action which destroyed one of your Hero Personalities: Destroy a target Follower, or Personality without Followers, in the current enemy army.
Courage in Death Reaction: Before one of your Personalities is destroyed during battle: Give another target Personality a Force bonus equal to your Personality's Chi. If you are a Crab Clan player, delay your Personality's destruction until after the battle ends.
Just to check, can I play the 2 reactions on the same death ?
If so can you describe me the timing please.
Thanks
A: Yes, unless you are a Crab Clan player.
The timing is pretty simple. Courage in Death says, "Before one of your Personalities is destroyed during battle," which means you have to play it before he's destroyed.
And You Die With Me says, "After another player resolves a Battle action which destroyed one of your Hero Personalities," which means you have to play it after the Battle action in question resolves all its effects that weren't Delayed.
So the Action starts to apply its effects. When it goes to kill your Personality you drop Courage in Death before he dies. If you are a Crab Clan player, he doesn't die at all right now, but rather that effect is Delayed until the battle ends.
Assuming you are not a Crab Clan player, the Action finishes resolving effects, killing your Personality along the way. Once it has finished resolving you play You Die With Me.
If you are a Crab Clan player, when the Action finishes resolving it hasn't killed your Personality yet, so you can't play You Die With Me, and by the time he DOES die it is too late to take a Reaction to the action Resolving - it already resolved during the Combat Segment. Martin Lund, "Courage in Death & You die with me.", 12 Nov 2007 - Q: Two heroes personalitys without follower against elemental dragon with Kuro's Fire. Player A use action form Kuro's Fire and kill first hero personality. Player B react with You Die With Me! and kill Elemental Dragon. Does rest (in this scenario second) of range attack occur?
A: Rules Archive, Ranged Attacks: "Destroying the source of a Ranged Attack between two consecutive Ranged Attacks can prevent later Ranged Attacks from resolving, because the destroyed card no longer opposes anything." Zen Faulkes, "You Die With Me! vs Kuro's Fire", 7 Jun 2007