Bitter Vengeance
Legend of the Five Rings card from Dark Allies
Open in Oracle of the Void
- Card Type
- Event
- Keywords
- Unique
- Card Text
- After you reveal cards in your Provinces at the start of your turn, if this Event is face-up in one of them, target another player and discard one to three cards. Once for each card you discarded, the target chooses to either discard a card or lose 3 Honor.
- Legality
- Four Winds (Gold)
- Deck
- Dynasty
Printings
Dark Allies
- Rarity
- Rare
- Flavor Text
- "With the Lion distracted by the Tsuno and the Phoenix, the Crane knew the time was right to take back Violence Behind Courtliness City. The attack followed in the uniquely Daidoji manner..." - Satoshi
- Artist
- Storn A. Cook
- Card Number
- 36
- Publisher
- Alderac Entertainment Group
Rulings
- One of the two effects must happen if possible. I.e., a player who cannot lose honor must discard Fate cards. [JA, email, 25 April 2002] Rules Archive, August 18, 2007, p. 68
Rules Q&A
- Q: What happens if a Shadowlands player has less then the 3 required cards to discard?
A: They discard all they can. Cards aren't discarded from the Fate deck. Zen Faulkes, "Rules for 21 June 2002", 22 Jun 2002 - Q: Hi, here's a (hopefully) quick question regarding Bitter Vengeance.
If I target a shadowlands player, all of their Gold Legal strongholds say they can't gain or lose honor, do they have to discard the fate cards? I assume yes, as the option to lose honor for them has been removed by their strongholds.
A: Anyone who cannot choose to lose honor must choose to discard cards. Jeff Alexander, "post for 29 April 2002", 30 Apr 2002 - Q: Apologies if this has been asked before -
Bitter Vengeance reads: "Target an opponent and discard one to three fate cards. For each card discarded, that opponent must either discard a Fate card of his or her choice or lose 3 honor."
I play Bitter Vengeance. Is each of my discards a discrete "event"? That is, do I discard all of my cards at once or can I discard one, see my opponent's reaction (discard or honor loss), then discard another, etc... up to the maximum allowed or when I choose to stop?
A: You have to pick the amount up front. You can't do them one at a time. Jeff Alexander, "post for 26 April 2002", 27 Apr 2002 - Q: Bitter Vengeance reads: "Target an opponent and discard one to three fate cards. For each card discarded, that opponent must either discard a Fate card of his or her choice or lose 3 honor."
My question: If the opponent decides to keep all of their cards, does this event generate three separate losses of 3 honor or one loss of 9 honor?
A: Three separate losses. Jeff Alexander, "post for 25 April 2002", 26 Apr 2002